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EDIT: new deckcode fa5heqaq

deckcode: 3hj4sdoj

How about playing a Season with the canadian point list to analyse the gap between the two formats?

really like this one!!!

+1

I also vote for A with top unban. Without fetchlands the top isn't that powerful in the most decks.

Ok, I will continue now my thoughts about this discussion. Many people see the academy decks as too strong for our format, other people also see TPS as problematic. But what about other combo decks? Vadru mentioned, that Scapeshift is really dominant, too. It won the last tournament at the HLL and also got great performence at the last MGMs. And I guess he is also right. I also think, this deck is underplayed and could be even more dominant, when more people decide to play this. I watched Payron some games and it felt, he could combo out consistently about turn 6. And the most games also were nearly non interactive. Christoph also mentioned, that reanimator is also dominant, but I don't think so. It appears sometimes in the top 8 of big tournament, but aren't a real problem imo. I also think that cards like phyrexian furnace etc. are too much underplayed in our format, especially cause of the delve cards (And it could also weaken Y-Will ). But all in all we seem to have a problem with combo deck in general. So what we can do? I really wonder, why noone came to the idea to unban the tutor spells, especially Demonic and Mystical Tutor. Imo they are too powerful beeing healthy for any format. Two cards, that can win mid-lategames on its own, even in combo decks. Demonic Tutor is played in every deck, that plays black. There are also various decks like UW control that splash black only for this tutor. Can such a card be healthy for our format and generate various meta? The answer is simply no. This card says you play every card in your deck twice. Mystical Tutor into Demonic says you play every card 3 times. Merchant Scroll into mystical 4. And I'm also playing muddle the mixture who can find demonic. So do you all see, how problematic these cards are?

Hey Guys,

now after I went on holiday and was thinking about this actual problem, I wanna tell you my opinion about this now. First I wanna tell some beackground information about this deck. As far I can remember I've been working on this deck since 2.5 years, nearly the same time when the first eggs combo decks apeared. And I also did many many testgames with that deck. My experience with artifact decks in general is even longer. I've been playing artifact decks in Highlander since I'm playing Highlander. And as you can see, you need much experience with that deck when you look the the performance of other players with that deck. And there are only few people who could have that eperience with that deck, like ChristophO, Tabris, etc. The same goes for TPS. It's really strong, but very few people can play this. In general there is one question left: Does a deck break a format cause only one or two people can pilot such a deck? A very hard question to answer imo.

Please note, this was only the indroduction of my post, the rest I will finish tonight of maybe the next days.

just click on game replays and then move the replays from the right to the left side (green arrow on the bottom)

Silberhase (Artifact Combo) 2 : 0 Piepser (Mono Black Control)

Game 1: I have thopter combo at turn 3 with academy+minamo t4, so no chance for him.

Game 2: He has double discard (Staf of domination+aether grid) + grim monolith into phyrexian totem + liliana of the veil for the 1st 3 turns, while I had a quite slow hand. The Liliana lets me discard every round and the totem always attacks, so he set me a clock raising me to 1 life. I had only a thopter foundry which made me 1 token to prevent liliana ulti and later memory jar. When I was at 1 life, I played demonic for academy and activiated memory jar. I found a ponder into yagmoth will and I used him to play some artifacts from jar and from graveyard which I had to discard from lilly. On his turn he topdecked oblivion stone to reset the complete board. I still had top which found later rings of brightearth and crucible(minamo in grave), which gave me the combo to win.

Silberhase (Artifact Combo) vs. K0d013e4st (4c Reanimator)

Result: 2:1

Game 1: He start,and I mull to 6. While he has in opening hand shot and tell,primeval titan, decay, sylvan scying and 3 lands, I got a really slow hand with 4 lands, y-will and gilded lotus. To my luck, he didn't know what im playing and was afraid of counterspells, so he decided not to play t3 show and tell(I had 2 fetchlands on board). When I used my enlightened tutor to search for nihil spellbomb (the cephalid colosseum on board gave me the tell that he plays reanimator), he used his wasteland to destroy my fetched tundra. Then on his turn,he used show and tell, cause I dont have UU anymore. He puts Iona into play and me gilded lotus. On my Turn, i tutored Karakas with tolaria west to bounce Iona. Later he tapped out himself for hardcasting titan and I got enough tutor spells for an infinite mana combo (academy, candelabra, clock of omes + 2 artifact lands) to end the game.

Game 2: He starts with sylvan primordial, makeshift mannequin, mana drain, tolaria west and 3 other lands, I got mox diamond, snapcaster, jace tms, teferi temporal archmage and 3 lands in hand. In turn 2 I drew a signet which got drained. He used this mana to tutor bazaar with tolaria west and to play his topdecked loam after that. Then I played jace which got killed by a reanimated sylvan primordial(bazaar+dance of the dead). Next turn i played tezzeret, agent of bolas and I choosed to make my darksteel citadel 5/5 and I tried to raise him. He also killed my tezzeret and raised with his sylvan too. unfortunatly he was faster, when he exiled the darksteel citadel with ashen rider and killed me after that.

Game 3: I stardted with demonic tutor,GW talisman, time spiral, staff of domination, chain of vapor, and he mulls to 6 into careful study, anger, stitch together, tainted pact, dance of the dead and 1 land. I played t2 the talisman, while he gets a good start with t1 study and t2 reanimate ashen rider which exiled me a land. Then I played ponder where I found a land, mana drain and gilded lotus. he topdecked bazaar and played inquisition to discard my chain of vapor. The Dance he played next turn was drained and I could play gilded lotus and staff of domination next turn with keeping demonic tutor and time spiral in hand. He used his tainted pact for a duress to discard the tutor. Now I was at 4 life thanks to ashen rider and I topdecked wargate who found academy and i used the time spiral. I got a fetchland, minamo, ponder, thopther foundry, thirst for knowledge, expedition map and worn powerstone. I played minamo, map, thopter foundry and ponder, who found mana drain again and also deserted temple. I end the turn with academy (5 artifacts) and two other lands untapped.Then He played dread return and had many creatures in graveyard (anger included), but only dance of the dead as reanimaor spell, who puts the creature tapped into play. he decided to keep 2 mana and said go. On my turn I put deserted temple into play and found with thist frantic search, who could generate many mana with academy and both untap lands on play. He tried to counter it but i also had mana drain. finally i found a tutor for rings of brightearth, who combos out with the lands + staff.

New Deck Code: 967it4ab

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Silberhase (Combo Artifact) vs. dsck (RDW) 2:0

Game 1: He wins the coinflip and starts with t1 ghitu camp and t2 miracle thunderouth wrath, I start with t1 seat of the synod + expedition map and t2 ancient tomb+ worn powerstone. t3 he moltens my seat and i play vault of whispers, chromatic lantern and search for academy with map. On t4 he has Ankh of Mishra + Keldon Marauders but i get on t4 with basalt monolith into staff of domination and with frantic search enough mana to search for power artifact with demonic tutor and finally comboing out.

Game 2: He has now t1 stromkirk noble into t2 stormblood berserker into t3 zurgo bellstriker + mogg fanatic. I got t1 darksteel citadel, t2 tree of tales + azorous signet and t3 basalt monolith into mindstone + academy. On t4 i can drain his Chandra's Phoenix and it wasn't enough to kill me at all. I can again comboing with deserted temple in hand and tezzeret+wargate, which are tutoring rings of brightearth and staff of domination.

Here the list I played yesterday:

http://mtgpulse.com/event/22143#309502

Silberhase (Artifact Combo) vs. Iulus (RG-Ramp) 2:0

Game 1: I had solid starting hand with turn 2 City of Traitors into Coalition Relic and turn 3 Thran Dynamo into Jace. He had Manland for Jace, but then I could drain his Natural Order and draw many Cards with Braingeyser. Finally I had Mindslaver Lock with Sharuum and Karakas.

Game 2: I had really nice start with turn 1 chrome mox into talisman and t2 Crucible with a fetchland (my only land in opening hand XD). He had turn 1 pilgrim and 3 Vengevine, I had t3 Tezzeret the Seeker and I could him protect with Chain of Vapor. Turn 4 i found Academy and Buried Ruin with Intuition (and Crucible on board) and Mindslaver with Demonic Tutor, so i got him again in a Mindslaver lock.

Academy decks are underpresented in our Meta. With the right building and the right pilot they can be really strong. The reason why everyone is playing uwr/4c blood is because its easier to build a deck with all good cards in 3 or 4 colours.