Big creatures!!!

[meteora]

Hey everyone!

I´d like to play a new Highlander-Deck. I want to play a deck thats sneaks big creatures into play but i´m not very creative at the moment... So please could you make some suggestions to me for a Deck that powers things like: Hypergenesis, Reanimator, Sneakattack etc.

Andy

[pyyhttu]

Here's my first draft of Hypergenesis that went 3-2 yesterday in a tournament with 32 people: http://iki.fi/~pyyhttu/magic/highlander/hypergenesis.txt

That one is quite bad having its own strange design approach (Living Death & Cyclers), and I already have a better design whipped up together, which I believe is better off following Nastaboi's and Tiggupiru's designs. Cascade has been their brainchild after all.

From the same directory listing you can find an UB-Reanimator shell to toy with, if you like that one better.

[derStefan82]

I think you should take a look at Nastabois version, which is really cool using hardly as pyytthu said, cascade and hypergenesis/eureka.
I asked him afterwards for sneak attack as I thought it would mach in really cool...

[meteora]

Thanks so far! but where can I find Nastaboi´s list?
I already heard about that one...

Now to your list - I am quite a fan of Sneak attack since I did crazy things with borgadan hellkite vesuvan shapeshifter and momentary blink so I think this would work for me, too let´s see what further results will lead to - i´ll let you know what list it´´s going to be in the end.

[malz77]

if hypergenesis/eureka is countered is there a backup-plan or = game over? (besides from casting the big guys).

[meteora]

Hey pyyhttu! How exactly do you unable Living Death did I overread anything that puts your creatures in your grave?

[pyyhttu]

@Malz: There is no any other backup against control than to maybe use the surprise strategy in the first game or then try to go off as fast as possible. I've come to prefer this latter tactic.

Do note that this deck was only put together in hopes to get into aggro curve and beat the hell out of them. We call this "refining the format" here in Funland or something like that. It really doesn't even try to win anything else.

If you want to try to prepare against control, then you could mix in something such as Force of Will or Misdirection. Or maybe even Unmask or Ricochet Trap, but they have cmc of four... (bad with cascade).

@meteora: that Living Death was just thrown in because of synergy with my cycling dudes and the game breaking effect it has on the board. But that strategy proved to little bit flawed (although Living Death won me one game) because I noticed that cycling into Hypergenesis became more apparentapparent (although I won one game with suspended Hypergenesis, too).

[meteora]

As vacation startet for me right yesterday i´ll use the next week to get some more into the deck and try to figure out what build i can create...

[malz77]

I would like to take a look at Nastabois's decklist too. Is there a link or a file I could get? thx a lot

[meteora]

Ancient Spring
Tropical Island
Badlands
Bayou
Plateau
Scrubland
Taiga
Ebon Stronghold
Geothermal Crevice
Irrigation Ditch
Sulfur Vent
Tinder Farm
Polluted Delta
Arid Mesa
Flooded Strand
Vivid Crag
Vivid Creek
Vivid Grove
Vivid Marsh
Vivid Meadow
Scalding Tarn
Wooded Foothills
Underground Sea
Marsh Flats
Misty Rainforest
Verdant Catacombs
Bloodstained Mire
Windswept Heath
City of Brass
Gemstone Mine
Tendo Ice Bridge
Reflecting Pool
Hickory Woodlot
Peat Bog
Remote Farm
Sandstone Needle
Saprazzan Skerry
Forbidden Orchard
Grand Coliseum
Violent Outburst
Form of the Dragon
Beseech the Queen
Show and Tell
Hypergenesis
Stormcaller's Boon
Demonic Dread
Captured Sunlight
Ardent Plea
Eureka
Clutch of the Undercity
Genju of the Realm
Akroma's Memorial
Force of Will
Misdirection
Ricochet Trap
Unmask
Gifts Ungiven
Mystical Teachings
Diabolic Tutor
Sneak Attack
Broodmate Dragon
Empyrial Archangel
Hellkite Overlord
Realm Razer
Sphinx Sovereign
Bloodbraid Elf
Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
Kathari Remnant
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Thraximundar
Inkwell Leviathan
Maelstrom Archangel
Magister Sphinx
Progenitus
AEthersnipe
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Simic Sky Swallower
Stalking Vengeance
Sundering Titan
Bringer of the Black Dawn
Hoverguard Sweepers
Angel of Despair
Razia, Boros Archangel
Rorix Bladewing
Shriekmaw
Baneslayer Angel
Bogardan Hellkite
Darksteel Colossus
Spirit of the Night
Exalted Angel
Brimstone Dragon
Blazing Archon
Dimir House Guard
Woodfall Primus
Sakashima the Impostor
Petradon
Kaervek the Merciless
Terastodon
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
Lands: 39, Spells: 21, Crt: 40

This is the first draft of my hypergenesis list which is very close to the one of nastaboi with slight modifications.

I´ll make some further changes but this will of course take some time and will take some testing.

Thanks to all of you contributing!!!

Andy

[Nastaboi]

As there has been some interest and as I am working on a new version of the deck, I thought I could post my Hypergenesis list with comments.

// Lands 41 - The deck mulls to five much more often than others, and you really want to make your land drops as you have nothing to play below 3 mana.
   1 [IN] Ancient Spring         <- nutty lands
   1 [IN] Geothermal Crevice
   1 [IN] Irrigation Ditch
   1 [IN] Sulfur Vent
   1 [IN] Tinder Farm          

   1 [MM] Hickory Woodlot    <- more nutty lands
   1 [MM] Peat Bog
   1 [MM] Remote Farm
   1 [MM] Sandstone Needle
   1 [MM] Saprazzan Skerry

   1 [ZEN] Arid Mesa       <- obvious
   1 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
   1 [ZEN] Marsh Flats
   1 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
   1 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs
   1 [ON] Wooded Foothills
   1 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
   1 [ON] Windswept Heath
   1 [ON] Polluted Delta
   1 [ON] Flooded Strand

   1 Underground Sea   <- 8 duals as you seldom need some combinations
   1 Tropical Island
   1 Badlands
   1 Bayou
   1 Plateau
   1 Scrubland
   1 Taiga
   1 Volcanic Island

   1 [AN] City of Brass    <- good rainbow lands
   1 [TSB] Gemstone Mine
   1 [BOK] Tendo Ice Bridge
   1 [TE] Reflecting Pool
   1 [CHK] Forbidden Orchard

   1 [LRW] Vivid Crag     <- EBF tapped hurts, but you just have to run that much rainbow lands
   1 [LRW] Vivid Creek
   1 [LRW] Vivid Grove
   1 [LRW] Vivid Marsh
   1 [LRW] Vivid Meadow
   1 [ON] Grand Coliseum

   1 [GUR] Forest    <- Fetch in response to Blood Moon / Magus and be able to play at least some casdade spells
   1 [GUR] Swamp

// Win 4
   1 [TSP] Hypergenesis
   1 [US] Show and Tell    <- usually cascading into this does not matter
   1 [LG] Eureka
   1 [US] Sneak Attack

// Cascade 7
   1 [ARB] Violent Outburst
   1 [ARB] Demonic Dread
   1 [ARB] Ardent Plea

   1 [ARB] Bloodbraid Elf
   1 [ARB] Captured Sunlight
   1 [ARB] Kathari Remnant
   1 [ARB] Stormcaller's Boon

// Tutor 6
   1 [RAV] Clutch of the Undercity
   1 [RAV] Dimir House Guard
   1 [SHM] Beseech the Queen

   1 [CHK] Gifts Ungiven
   1 [TSP] Mystical Teachings
   1 [OD] Diabolic Tutor

// Protection 4
   1 [AL] Force of Will
   1 [MM] Misdirection
   1 [WWK] Ricochet Trap
   1 [MM] Unmask

// Stuff to put into play 38
   1 [ARB] Thraximundar       <- hasty beaters
   1 [CFX] Magister Sphinx
   1 [ARB] Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
   1 [ON] Rorix Bladewing
   1 [LE] Akroma, Angel of Wrath
   1 [TSP] Bogardan Hellkite
   1 [RAV] Razia, Boros Archangel
   1 [MI] Spirit of the Night
   1 [ALA] Hellkite Overlord
   1 [P2] Brimstone Dragon

   1 [CFX] Progenitus      <- difficult to remove
   1 [DS] Darksteel Colossus
   1 [DIS] Simic Sky Swallower
   1 [CFX] Inkwell Leviathan
   1 [BOK] Genju of the Realm
   1 [SC] Form of the Dragon

   1 [LRW] AEthersnipe       <- castable and dangerous
   1 [LRW] Shriekmaw
   1 [CFX] Maelstrom Archangel
   1 [M10] Baneslayer Angel
   1 [ON] Exalted Angel
   1 [FD] Bringer of the Black Dawn
   1 [ZEN] Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
   1 [ALA] Broodmate Dragon

   1 [RAV] Blazing Archon      <- still got creatures?
   1 [ALA] Sphinx Sovereign
   1 [ARB] Sphinx of the Steel Wind
   1 [FD] Hoverguard Sweepers
   1 [ALA] Empyrial Archangel
    1 [ST] Thunder Dragon

   1 [SHM] Woodfall Primus      <ld and other lockdown
   1 [DS] Sundering Titan
   1 [TO] Petradon
   1 [ALA] Realm Razer
   1 [GP] Angel of Despair
   1 [WWK] Terastodon
   1 [TSP] Kaervek the Merciless
   1 [ZEN] Iona, Shield of Emeria

[Sturmgott]

I also built a version of the HG deck this weekend.

Imho all versions posted up to now lack very important cards:

Decree of Silence
Debtor's Knell
Ritual of Subdual
Confiscate
Take Possession

I'm still searching for more 5cc+-cards to fulfill a protective function, that is preventing the opponent from playing WoG or the likes. Any more ideas?

[meteora]

The first thing: Why do this solutions have to be that expensive cc4 Is also possible...

Well if you want to go that way - There are for Example:

Dovescape
Eldrazi Monument (you usually don´t need to keep it)
Nethervoid

But watch out! If you have to many protective spells you`ll lack of Pressure!

[Tiggupiru]

I haven't done pretty much anything to this deck after I initially just threw it together, but I tried to focus on hasted creatures as they can't WoG if they are dead. The problems is the quality of those creatures plummets like Greece's economy after the few best ones.

I also recommend Akroma's Memorial, which gives haste to all your creatures and is pure sickness in the mirror. Dropping this with the genesis usually results in haste kill on the same turn as they can't chump well because of flying and trample. If they were to survive the turn and were able to stabilize after Genesis, this makes all creatures you draw much more dangerous.

[meteora]

One dude crossed my way: !Nullstone Gargoyle!  I think he does the thing you want!