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Hi, thx for your ideas.

Pulse Tracker could be decent. I´ll cut guul draz vampire for it.

Vampire Nocturnus seems solid to me. I got some other Vampires so his ability wins sometimes the game.

Jinxed Choker could be an option, i´ll think about it.

still uncertain about the vial ...

cheers

hm, lets see:

1cc:
Spikeshot Elder - havent tested him yet // too slow
Skyshroud elite
Kird Ape
Tattermunge maniac
Basking rootwalla - not sure about this one its pretty avarage // bad
Arbor Elf // I think you should play creatures that make fast and much damage ... I´d cut the mana elves
Wild nacatl i think its not that bad even that i do paly white // yes, good guy
Wild Dogs - they are ok because of the cycling / bad
Magus of the scroll - great late game and plain 1/1 early game / too slow
Fyndhorn Elves / see arbor elf
Llanowar Elves  / -
Birds of paradise /-
Jackal Pup / playabel
Mtenda Lion - sometimes it just simply sucks / crap
Goblin Bushwhacer - i think he is pretty decent

2CC
Tin Street Hooligan
Rip Clan Crasher
River Boa
Gruul guildmage
Plated geopede
Scab Clan Mauler - not sure here
Dryad sophisticate
Hellspark Elemental - havent tested him yet // on eof the best cratures in your built !
Viridian Emissary - havent tested him // me neither, but could be good
Wild Mongrel - little ynergy with rootwalla
Vexing Susher - helps against blue

3cc
Spike Feeder // not a real threat ... cut
Burning Tree Shaman
Troll Ascetic
Countryside Crusher - not sure here either // personally, i dont like him
Thornscape Battlemage - i like him / me not I d cut him ... too expensive
Goblin Ruinblaster - good one / yes !
Inner Flame acolyte - so far working for me
Boggart Ram-Gang

4CC
Ravenous baloth / mediocre
Giant Solifuge
Phantom Centaur
Spellbreaker Behemonth - so far i think he is ok / I´d cut it, better go for the new red hast lord ( forgot his name )
Blastoderm
Obstinate Baloth
Keldon Champion
Brianhorn - really good trick
Wickerbough Elder
Flametongue Kavu

5cc
Arashi the Sky asunder - not sure here / I d cut it

1cc spells
Rancor
Burst Lightning
Shard Volley - sucks early game, i mulligan often this card / yes, not too good
Lightning Bolt
Stagershock
Seal of Fire
Vines of Vastwood - solid trick
Pyrite Spellbomb

2cc
Colossal might
Incinerate
Arc Trail
lash Out - not sure here
Volcanic hammer

3cc
Fires of yavimaya - well i dont have an opinion here
Char
Flames of the Bloodhand
Call of the Herd
Arc Lightning
Rift Bolt
Molten Rain

6cc
Fireblast

cards i played previosyl are
mogg fanatic
Horned kavu
Goblin Patrol
Keldon Marauder // good one !
Kiln Fiend
Pouncing Jaguar
Yamabushis Flame
Fire/Ice
Acidic Slime

What about some Equipments and Tangle wire / winter orb ?

Hi,

think you are missing some of the top cards for your built:

- Goblin Guide
- Tarmogoyf
- Lotus Cobra
- Hells thunder
- Vengevine
- Bloodbraid elf  (!)
- Vithian Renegades
- Figure of Destiny

- Chain Lightning
- Sulfuric Vortex ( ! )
- Koth of the Hammer
- Garruk
- Sarkhan Vol
- Radha, heir to keld

cheers

thx for your suggestions.

hm, your probably right with the crusader. I thought of wither but infect doesnt support the deck.

Necropotence: I win lot of games because of this card. The Mana Base is really good in the deck with so it´s normally no Problem to cast it.

Arcslogger: Hm, not sure about him, never liked it. Maybe could give him a try but as u can see in the list above, i am trying to avoid RR in the casting cost. Its just a light red splash, the main theme is black sui.

Sarkhan the Mad: I like him. He fits really well in the deck. May be not the best Planeswalker out there but he has style

Koth of The Hammer: Same Reason as for the Arcslogger. RR in the casting cost. But I could try him ... He fits well in the deck as Sarkhan does ...

more ideas ?

Hello,

I d like to share the newest version of mit Black / red Sui deck with you. Maybe you got some ideas about it. Here we go:

Creatures: ( 37 )

1cc: ( 4 )
Sarcomancy
Guul Draz Vampire ( most of the time, only 1/1 for 1cc. I ll cut it I think )
Sarcomancy
Vampire Lacerator

2cc ( 16 )
Gatekeeper of Malakir
Nantuko Shade
Dark Confidant
Vampire Hexmage
Oonas Prowler
Wretched Anurid
Dauthi Horror
Dauthi Slayer
Kalastria Highborn
Bloodghast
Skittering Skirge
Mesmeric Fiend
Hellspark Elemental
Fledling Djinn
Stromgald Crusader
Black Knight

3cc ( 9 )
Hypnotic Specter
Wasp Lancer
Ashenoor Gouger
Vampire Nighthawk
Stillmoon Cavalier
Ebon Drak
Ogre Marauder ( will be replaced by the new Phyrexian Crusader )
Shambling Remains
Magus of the Moon

4cc ( 5 )
Flametongue Cavu
Vampire Nocturnus
Ichorid
Graveborn Muse
Skinrender


5cc/++ ( 3 )
Shriekmaw
Demigod of Revenge
Tombstalker

Spells: 24

1cc:( 6 )
Duress
Thoughtseize
Kozileks Inquisition
reanimate
Lightning Bolt
Chain Lightning

2cc: ( 10 )
Hymn to Tourach
Distress
Rise/Fall
Terminate
Doom Blade
Bad Moon
Demonic Tutor
Bitterblossom
Incinerate
Price of Progress

3cc ( 6 )
Stupor
Phyrexian Arena
Necropotence
Blightning
Rhystic Lightning
Char

4cc/++ ( 2 )

Sarkhan the Mad
Skeletal Scrying

Artefacts: ( 6 )
1cc
Bonesplitter
Cursed Scroll
2cc:
Winter Orb
3cc:
Grafted wargear
Sword of Fire and Ice
Tangle Wire

Lands: ( 33 )
9 Swamps, 5 Mountains, Wasteland, Tectonic Edge, Mishras Factory, Mutavault, Rishadan Port,
Badlands, Blood Crypt, Dragonskull Summit, Barbarian Ring, Sulferous Springs, Graven Cairns, Blackcleave Cliffs, 7 Fetchlands

37 Cr.  +  6  Art. + 24 Spells + 33 Lands = 100

I am quite unsure about the following cards:

Wrench Mind ( additionnal discard, not the best one but playabel )
Anathemancer ( I played it in my last R/B Goblin Deck. Most of the time too slow and unimpressive )
Nether Shadow ( good guy ? Anyone got experiece with him ? )
Braids, Cabal Minion ( unsure ... )
Aether Vial ( I dont like the card. First turn its a strong , but in mid- and lategame its a bad topdeck. )
Unearth
Sinkhole ( good card, but what would you cut for it ... )
Sword of Light and Shadow
Go for the Throat


The Deck ist really fun to play. Its quite strong against any type of Blue-Based Control Decks. Against Aggro Deck you always have a chance to win by making card advantage with Flametonge Kave, Bitterblossom, Phyrexian Arena, Necropotence, Graveborn Muse, etc.. ( Just keep an eye on your life count ... that can be a Problem against really aggressive Red Decks ).
Quite Hard are Bant and U/G Aggro Control Decks. Your creatures just cant cope with the Powerlevel of Baneslayer, Tarmogoyf, Troll Ascetic, Doran and other Multicolored Friends ...

Got some ideas for the Deck ? What would you change about it ? I d like to increase a bit the speed of the Deck, but I dont see really how to ...

Noviomagus ( RG-Beatz ) vs. Tabris ( UG Ramp ) 

Noviomagus won 2:1

1st Game

Just remembering that I had a good beginning with skyshrout elite and scab clan mauler round 1 and 2. Drawing lot of Lands round3 to 7  just made it impossible to keep the pressure up until the end.  He started out with mana accelaration as far as I can remember ( Bird + somthing else, mid game, Garruk and troll ascetic and kitchen finks on his side were too mighty.

0:1

2nd game

It was a close one. Pressure by my side in the beginning with kird ape, Keldon marauders and mire Boa. Magus of the Moon took away his blue mana. As the board turnen at round 5 to 8 something to his favour ( troll ascetic, another critter with grafted wargear ) I could manage to reduce his life remaining ( something about 8 ) with char, volcanix hammer and shock. One  more round I would have had lost.

1:1

3rd game

I started this one out with mountain + kird ape and on turn 2 fire lit thicket and jungle lion + wild nacatl. He begun slowly, with just a mana fixer on round 2 ( sakure tribe elder )who killed the ape which still was 1/1, because I was screwed with just a  mountain and fire lit- thicket. Seemed that he was slightly flooded ( in return but managed to pop out some critters ( again troll ascetic I think ) and an early serendeeb efreet which helped me in the end ... Same developpement as in game one, mid - game, the board just turned to his favor but I could win with PoP and my new best friend "Serendeb Efreet."

2:1

cheers

Hi,

I work on a U/B Control Decklist at the moment. I play it with more cheap black removal Spells, otherwise the aggro matchup becoms too hard. ( like: Vendetta, Somther, Last Grasp, Agony Warp, Infest )

Intuition is a good card to play in such decks.

BTW: I play Psychatog as well

cheers

Burger / Andreas / 470614762 / Germany / BorsBorkas