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Thanks for your input. I agree, to establish a new democratic council needs some planning.
I think anyone who is playing HL, even if its irregularly, should just "register" (name and dci) in any community once and may switch at any time. I am sure this can be managed easily with an exel sheet.

Even if you "don't mind" the council. I think its a suboptimal solution.
Not a single community has an influence on the decisions which are being made. To me some choices are controverse, even more when votings are not public. This gives me the impression of an unbalance of power, emphasized by the lack of a controlling institution.

You may find this too political, but thats my opinion.

I am glad that at least this point caught your attention.
In the meanwhile, do you, as a council member, have anything to say about my criticism on the councils current governing approach?

Regards,

A. Dime

In times of social media, google-hangouts and daily emailnewsletters, the HL-Council and this forum seem mideval. From my POV the council members and their decisions are random. CMs (council members) dont represent the communities at all, but rather a group of ppl that somehow where choosen to rule... There are so many flaws in the current banlist and council system.

In a perfect state of HL-Magic:

HL COUNCIL:

The council would include only CM that have been voted by their own community.
To be a community you have to have at least 8 registered HL players. (just fill in your name and DCI no in a sheet of paper.)
Communities will have 1 CM. If there are a total of 100 HL players and community A has 12 players, their CM will have a vote worth 12%.
If a community doesnt want to have a CM, so be it.
CM votings are every 2 years.

Communication:
Why do the players have to come HERE to get the info they need about bannings? why no newsletter?

of course discussion is needed. But throwing arround with karmapoints is 1999.


Council decisions affect all HL players. They should be as democratic as they can be.

Regards,
A Dime.

Dear Tiggupiru,


Generator: format staple.

I also think you underestimate Yisan.
If not handled it will simply make the game on its own.
If you get mother to protect it, it can go off with ez. maybe its to expensive at first, but it will pay off. Mind that you dont spend a card to do this, unlike Fauna Shaman. I am not saying its better, but definetly a playable card.
I am gonna play it and use it and its gonna be wonderful.

Sincerely,
dynagfx

I didn't see the sarcasm

Why is hard to  decide? I thought this was a community poll... there are twice as many votes for A than for any other option!!!!

i don't think it's that clear

as clarification concerning the community polls (sorry if I've forgotten to make clear this time)

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notes:
* this is no official election ... - it will only influence my [edit: and surely of the other members as well] vote in the HLL council in october
* this is no official thread of the HLL council, just my personal interest

the decision will be democratically like always decided by votes of the council members

ok.

Are the council members elected by the community?

is that how democracy works?

i you wanted to ask the question: do you want the spoilermulligan yes or no? you should have done that...

but given the options A wins...

In a prasidential reelection voting with A (45 %, being current prasident), B(35%) and C (25%) you cant say: Oh the majority is against A so he/she is out!

preliminary result
http://www.magicplayer.org/forum/index.php?topic=934.msg9125#new
                              

NO.	A) SPOILS	B) FREEMULLIGAN	C) ROAD TO PARIS	D) OTHER
1	W0lf (Ger, Berlin)	Payron (Ger, East)	pyyhttu (Fin)	Goblin-Diplomaten (Ger)
2	berlinballz (Ger, Berlin)	guru (Ger, East)	Tiggupiru (Fin)	orca- (Ger, BW)
3	tonytahiti (Ger, Berlin)	hitman (Ger, BW)	Nastaboi (Fin)	Wasser (Ger, NRW)
4	Tabris (Ger, Berlin)	Doks (Ger, NRW)	LasH (Ger, NRW)
5	Vazdru (Ger, BW)	MMD (Ger, NRW)	SirGalahad (Ger, NRW)
6	Maqi (Ger, BW)	ChristophO (Ger, North)	Pennywise (Ger, Berlin)
7	goblinpiledriver (Ger, BW)	JohnnyComboplayer (Ger)	MarcMagic (Ger, NRW)
8	Orkpopper (Ger, BW)	~fenry~ (Ger)
9	peeler (Ger, NRW)
10	effect (Ger, East)
11	BallLightning (SVK)
12	nahkampfhamster (Ger)
13	Thaddeus (Ger)
14	phyrexianblackmetal (Ger)
15	dynagfx (Ger, Berlin)
16	Absolem (Ger, Berlin)
17	haju (Ger)
18	flashfreeze (Ger)
19	Madsam (Ger)

i tried to locate clusters, therefore i added a regional component (plz send me PM if i classified/located you wrong or if I should add the region)

it's pretty obvious that playgroups Berlin and BW prefer spoils-mulligan while
Finland and NRW prefer a change

you can either say a clear majority prefers spoil-mulligan or
you can either say almost 50% of the voters aren't satisfied with status quo

it won't be an easy thing to decide which way to go actually i stay with A but consider if option B could be the better choice

Why is hard to  decide? I thought this was a community poll... there are twice as many votes for A than for any other option!!!!

A) has all been said.