UG Midrange

[HedgehogPie]

I still think that I draw too much lands too often. I was thinking of putting in something like land grant. Has anyone had any positive results with it.

-Forest
+Land

Seems good to me. Also I was thinking of those oh so lovely fetches but... They're just hard to get.

[HedgehogPie]

For refreshing. My list for now:

Lands[30]
16xIsland
10xForest
Tranquil thicket
Pendelhaven
Lonely sandbar

Creatures[27]
Scryb sprite
Cloudsprite
Xantid swarm
Flying men
Treetop scout
Skarrgan pit-skulk
Gilded drake
Mire boa
Dryad sophisticate
Cloud of sprites
Jhessian infiltrator
Looter il-kor
Scryb ranger
Spiketail hatchling
Plaxmanta
Surveiling sprite
Silhana ledgewalker
River boa
Sea sprite
Spellstutter sprite
Cloud spirit
Trinket mage
Rishadan airship
Vendilion clique
Trygon predator
Man-O'-War
Cold-eyed selkie
Mystic snake
Genesis

Instant[25]
Brainstorm
Annul
Spell snare
Force spike
Impulse
Boomerang
Echoing truth
Trickbind
Daze
Interdict
Mana leak
Miscalculation
Remand
Memory lapse
Counterspell
Voidslime
Cancel
Hinder
Rushing river
Krosan grip
Prionic blast
Foil
Rewind
Gush
Misdirection

Sorcery[1]
Ponder
Land grant

Enchantment[7]
Rancor
Sylvan library
Standstill
Seal of primordium
Moldervine cloak
Counterbalance
Back to basics

Artifact [9]
Shuko
Sensei's divining top
Relic of progenitus
Black vise
Bone splitter
Winter orb
Mask of memory
Empyrial plate
Lightning greaves
Grafted wargear

The deck hasn't seen much of change recently and it's time to start to get some power ups.

Something I've thought of:
+sword of light and shadows
+Sword of fire and ice
+Tropical island
+Breeding pool
+Flooded strand
+Polluted delta
+Windsept heath
+Wooded foothills
+Yavimaya coast
+Chrome mox
+Mox diamond
+Serendib efreet

-Some basic lands
-Cold eyed selkie

Is there something else I should add/drop?

[Anime1]

I know there is meny ug list and i have read them but they seem some how different.
Im not realy sure if i even know what my deck is suposed to do.

Well to the list:

Lands (34)
8 island
5 forest
1 Tropical Island
1 Breeding Pool
1 Flooded Grove
1 Simic Growth Chamber
1 Yavimaya Coast
1 Flooded strand
1 Fooded Woothills
1 Windswept Heath
1 Mutavault
1 Mishra's Factory
1 Blinkmoth Nexus
1 Yavimaya Hollow
1 Treetop Village
1 tree of tales
1 Pendelhaven
1 Tranguil Thicket
1 Lonely Sandbar
1 Tolarian West
1 Seat Of Synoid
1 Cephalid Coliseum
1 Faerie Conclave

Creatures (31)
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Bird Of Paradise
1 Jhessian Inflitrator (?)
1 Werebear
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Tarmogoyf
1 Virirdian Zealot
1 Wild Mongrel
1 Plaxmanta
1 Looter Il-Kor
1 Trygon Predator
1 Ohran Viper
1 Troll Ascetic
1 Eternal Witness
1 Call Of The Herd
1 Trinket Mage
1 Pestermite (?)
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Man-o'-war
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Ravenous Baloth
1 Chamaleon Colossus
1 Masticore
1 Phantom Centaur
1 Mystic Snake
1 Sower OF Temptation
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
1 Wickerbough Elder
1 Mulldrifter
1 Indrik Stomphowler

Artifact (6)
1 Tormod's Crypt (?)
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Aether Vial
1 Loxodon Warhammer (?)
1 Chrome Mox
1 Black Vise (?)


Enchantment (3)
1 Control Magic
1 Treashery
1 Rancor

Planeswalkers (1)
1 Garruk Wildspeaker

Sorcery (7)
1 Deep Analysis
1 Ponder
1 Compulsive Research
1 Primal Command
1 Plow Under
1 Regrowth
1 Life From The Loam

Instant (19)
1 Daze
1 Pact Of Negation
1 Counterspell
1 Memory Lapse
1 Mana Leak
1 Remand
1 Force Of Will
1 Miscalculationin
1 Voidslime (?)
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Thirst Of Knowledge
1 Fact Or Fiction
1 Impulse
1 Brainstorm
1 Trickbind
1 Psionic Blast
1 Repulse (?)
1 Repeal
1 Echoing Truth
1 Capsize

If there is ? after card that means im not sure if i should play it.

Cards deck is missing and im trying to get are
1 Polluted Delta
1 Intuition
1 Cryptic Command
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Back To Bacis
1 Ancestral Vision
1 Genesis
1 Rushing River
1 River Boa
1 Sitfle

Id like to have eny comments that may improve deck.

[HedgehogPie]

I tried to build something like this before it turned into ug skies. That just might work better than my former midrange thingy. The problem I had with the deck was it's slowness until it got some meat into the counter.

In addition to river boa try mire boa. There should be swamps as there is islands.

Also yavimaya elder is decent blocker/card advantage.

[Anime1]

I tried to build something like this before it turned into ug skies. That just might work better than my former midrange thingy. The problem I had with the deck was it's slowness until it got some meat into the counter.

I haven't got to test it, but against aggro i think it should be okey, problem is that meta here is more control and it may give too much time for opponent to get control.

In addition to river boa try mire boa. There should be swamps as there is islands.

Meaby, but only deck whit black and not playing blue i can recall is goblin, and im not realy sure if walk even matters against it.

Also yavimaya elder is decent blocker/card advantage.

I have been told its good, but it never realy worked for me, plus there is so meny other good 3 drops.

[Mythrandir]

well i think of first should decide wether this is an aggro or a mid range deck, because i think this decks isnt either because of some cards choices. i´d go for a more aggro style cine u say your meta is more control, thus cutting cards like:

capsize
ravenous baloth
indrik stomphowler
control magic
treachery
plow under
life from the loam

and definitely adding some of the cards you mention you´re trying to get.

Try this and let us know. Also if this doesnt work you still have the option of going more control than aggro.

[Anime1]

Because of my own preferenses id make midrange, but id like to make ug deck that can win. Oh yeah one thing i have been wondering is that should i make it madness.

[Anime1]

After some tinkering deck should look like this when i have all cards.
// Lands
    1 Wooded Foothills
    1 Flooded Strand
    1 Faerie Conclave
    1 Wasteland
    9 Island
    6 Forest
    1 Pendelhaven
    1 Cephalid Coliseum
    1 Tranquil Thicket
    1 Lonely Sandbar
    1 Treetop Village
    1 Windswept Heath
    1 Yavimaya Hollow
    1 Blinkmoth Nexus
    1 Mishra's Factory
    1 Mutavault
    1 Simic Growth Chamber
    1 Flooded Grove
    1 Yavimaya Coast
    1 Breeding Pool
    1 Polluted Delta
    1 Tropical Island

// Creatures
    1 Sower of Temptation
    1 Aquamoeba
    1 Bonded Fetch Or Ohran viper
    1 Plaxmanta
    1 Wickerbough Elder
    1 Masticore
    1 Kitchen Finks
    1 Fyndhorn Elves
    1 Hermit Druid
    1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
    1 Garruk Wildspeaker
    1 Wild Mongrel
    1 Spike Weaver
    1 Gigapede
    1 Genesis
    1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
    1 Wonder
    1 Waterfront Bouncer
    1 Merfolk Looter
    1 Looter il-Kor
    1 Thought Courier
    1 Basking Rootwalla
    1 Arrogant Wurm
    1 Birds of Paradise
    1 Werebear
    1 Ravenous Baloth
    1 Chameleon Colossus
    1 Llanowar Elves
    1 Tarmogoyf
    1 Mulldrifter
    1 Trygon Predator
    1 Troll Ascetic
    1 Eternal Witness
    1 Phantom Centaur

// Spells
    1 Echoing Truth
    1 Psionic Blast
    1 Rancor
    1 Control Magic
    1 Treachery
    1 Repeal
    1 Gush
    1 Primal Command
    1 Regrowth
    1 Miscalculation
    1 Circular Logic
    1 Gifts Ungiven
    1 Intuition
    1 Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 Back to Basics
    1 Rushing River
    1 Cryptic Command
    1 Call of the Herd
    1 Deep Analysis
    1 Roar of the Wurm
    1 Counterspell
    1 Mana Leak
    1 Remand
    1 Memory Lapse
    1 Force of Will
    1 Life from the Loam
    1 Chrome Mox
    1 Survival of the Fittest
    1 Compulsive Research
    1 Fact or Fiction
    1 Sensei's Divining Top

And Mana drain if some one lends it.
Then i realy wanted to add pact, mystic snake, stifle and brainstorm, but can't decide what to remove.

[Vazdru]

I would cut

* Roar of the Wurm (too much gy-hate around - not strong enough)
* Plaxmanta (i don't like it what about Kira)
* Gigapede
* Bonded Fetch

and play more basic lands! A combination of lands like Simic Growth Chamber + Back to Basics scaring me 

Worth testing/trying:

* Venser (better than Mystic Snake)
* Pact of Negation
* Veldalken Shackles
* Upheaval

[Vazdru]

Against confirmed habits I post my deck list for next tournaments before and not thereafter.

Thanks for your comments in advance 

I used Arne Frickes UG-Basics (2nd of 126 at last GP) as platform and changed some minor things (new cards marked red, cards I cut therefor in brackets).

/ Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
    1 [TE] Wasteland
    1 [U ] Tropical Island
    1 [ON] Wooded Foothills
    1 [ON] Windswept Heath
    1 [ON] Polluted Delta
    1 [ON] Flooded Strand
    1 [ON] Lonely Sandbar
    1 [ON] Tranquil Thicket
    14 [UG] Forest
    14 [UG] Island

// Creatures
    1 [JU] Genesis
    1 [FD] Eternal Witness
    1 [SHM] Devoted Druid
    1 [DIS] Trygon Predator (Nevermaker)
    1 [ARB] Lorescale Coatl (Psionic Blast)
    1 [CFX] Noble Hierarch (Thieving Magpie)
    1 [FD] Trinket Mage
    1 [4E] Birds of Paradise
    1 [OD] Werebear
    1 [ON] Ravenous Baloth
    1 [EVE] Wicker-Bough Elder
    1 [SHM] Oona, Queen of the Fae
    1 [ON] Gigapede
    1 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
    1 [EVE] Glen Elendra Archamge
    1 [TSB] Wall of Roots
    1 [LRW] Sower of Temptation
    1 [CHK] Sakura-Tribe Elder
    1 [TSP] Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
    1 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
    1 [LRW] Cloudthresher
    1 [MOR] Chameleon Colossus
    1 [CHK] Meloku the Clouded Mirror
    1 [FUT] Venser, Shaper Savant
    1 [LRW] Mulldrifter


//Planeswalker
    1 [LRW] Garruk Wildspeaker
    1 [LRW] Jace Beleren


// Spells
    1 [LG] Mana Drain
    1 [EX] Survival of the Fittest
    1 [UL] Miscalculation
    1 [RAV] Life from the Loam
    1 [IA] Brainstorm
    1 [GP] Repeal
    1 [UD] Treachery
    1 [US] Back to Basics
    1 [MM] Misdirection (Stifle)
    1 [FUT] Pact of Negation 
    1 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
    1 [A ] Regrowth
    1 [TE] Intuition
    1 [LRW] Primal Command
    1 [RAV] Compulsive Research
    1 [MR] Thirst for Knowledge (Crystal Shards)
    1 [TO] Deep Analysis (Harmonize)
    1 [CHK] Gifts Ungiven
    1 [WL] Phyrexian Furnace
    1 [RAV] Farseek
    1 [IN] Tsabo's Web
    1 [PS] Rushing River
    1 [FD] Vedalken Shackles
    1 [FD] Engineered Explosives
    1 [DIS] Simic Signet
    1 [FUT] Edge of Autumn
    1 [P2] Nature's Lore
    1 [IN] Fact or Fiction
    1 [TSP] Search for Tomorrow
    1 [9E] Mana Leak
    1 [RAV] Remand
    1 [AL] Force of Will
    1 [FD] Condescend
    1 [MM] Counterspell
    1 [LRW] Cryptic Command
    1 [OD] Upheaval
    1 [10E] Tidings (Rude Awakening)




 

[Nastaboi]

Well, you shouldn't cut Pact but stuff like Crystal Shard or Tsabo's Web instead. I'm not too fond on Thornling either, and Annul can sit in your hand for a long time. Is Rushing River really needed? Rampant Growth and Into the North are both better than Edge of Autumn, Three Visits is another Nature's Lore if you happen to have one. Coalition Relic is great too. You absolutely should play Deep Analysis as card draw, it's way better than Harmonize (and Concentrate). I would try Future Sight, Tidings and Mind Spring too.

[Payron]

A friend of mine plays the deck also in real life so it happends that I can play the build from time to time ... When I played the deck I always ask myself if you couldn t add W with a splash do get some more control parts roling (because your only mass removel is Upheavel) and you can ramp your mana anyways + you can play enlightning tutor and goods like faith fetters ... I never tryed it because I am not the control guy but I played b2b in my UGw survival and didn t had so much ramp stuff out there ... well anyways to your build:

Thornling isn t so good in my opinion and rude awakining gave some unespected wins. Pact od Negation was always nice in the deck because you just get the mana fast what means that the spell is fast avalible and later on you my have a not to much cards in you hand anymore so you just don t care. I mean it is a basic land ramp, but in my opinion LoA fits also here I mean if you draw something what handels it LoA drawed alrdy some cards or the 1 land just doesn t matter. Actualy I also liked the stifel just because you could handle some fetchies .. and you also find some target ... annul is nice and I guess taht would just be a personal desicion (but a laying b2b and countering a fetchie just keeps the manascrew of your opponent up)

that was just my thoughts about the deck

[Vazdru]

Thx

Here are my latest updates:

- Annul + Pact of Negation
- Crystal Shards + Thirst for Knowledge
- Harmonize + Deep Analysis
- Thornling + Tidings

[Vazdru]

After 11-1 matches (3:0 HLL, 4:0 TNM, 4:1 Iserlohn) my deck looks like this:

VIC = bold

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands (36)
    1 [ON] Flooded Strand
    14 [UG] Forest
    14 [UG] Island
    1 [ON] Lonely Sandbar
    1 [ON] Polluted Delta
    1 [ON] Tranquil Thicket
    1 [U ] Tropical Island
    1 [TE] Wasteland
    1 [ON] Windswept Heath
    1 [ON] Wooded Foothills


// Creatures (25)

cc(1) -2
    1 [4E] Birds of Paradise
    1 [CFX] Noble Hierarch

cc(2) -5
    1 [SHM] Devoted Druid
    1 [CHK] Sakura-Tribe Elder
    1 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
    1 [TSB] Wall of Roots
    1 [OD] Werebear

cc(3) -5
    1 [FD] Eternal Witness
    1 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
    1 [ARB] Lorescale Coatl
    1 [FD] Trinket Mage
    1 [DIS] Trygon Predator

cc(4) -8
    1 [MOR] Chameleon Colossus
    1 [EVE] Glen Elendra Archamge
    1 [UD] Masticore
    1 [ON] Ravenous Baloth
    1 [LRW] Sower of Temptation
    1 [EX] Spike Weaver
    1 [EVE] Wicker-Bough Elder
    1 [FUT] Venser, Shaper Savant

cc(5) -4
    1 [JU] Genesis
    1 [CHK] Meloku the Clouded Mirror
    1 [LRW] Mulldrifter
    1 [TSP] Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir

cc(6) -1
    1 [LRW] Cloudthresher


// Planeswalker (2)

    1 [LRW] Garruk Wildspeaker
    1 [LRW] Jace Beleren


// Spells (37)

cc(0) -2
    1 [TSP] Ancestral Vision
    1 [FUT] Pact of Negation

cc(1) -3
    1 [IA] Brainstorm
    1 [WL] Phyrexian Furnace
    1 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top

cc(2) -13
    1 [MM] Counterspell
    1 [FUT] Edge of Autumn
    1 [RAV] Farseek
    1 [RAV] Life from the Loam
    1 [LG] Mana Drain
    1 [9E] Mana Leak
    1 [UL] Miscalculation
    1 [TE] Rampant Growth
    1 [A] Regrowth
    1 [RAV] Remand
    1 [DIS] Simic Signet
    1 [EX] Survival of the Fittest
    1 [IN] Tsabo's Web

cc(3) -8
    1 [US] Back to Basics
    1 [OD] Call of the Herd
    1 [RAV] Compulsive Research
    1 [TE] Intuition
    1 [PS] Rushing River
    1 [TSP] Search for Tomorrow
    1 [MR] Thirst for Knowledge
    1 [FD] Vedalken Shackles

cc(4) -3
    1 [LRW] Cryptic Command
    1 [IN] Fact or Fiction
    1 [CHK] Gifts Ungiven

cc(5) -4
    1 [AL] Force of Will
    1 [MM] Misdirection
    1 [LRW] Primal Command
    1 [UD] Treachery

cc(6) -1
    1 [OD] Upheaval

cc(x) -3
    1 [FD] Condescend
    1 [FD] Engineered Explosives
    1 [GP] Repeal

[Tabris]

Well, I just post my UG-Deck. As you can see I ve added a little fearie plan to the deck. So Mistbind Clique, Spellstutter Sprite, Scryb Ranger (this guy is awesome) Fearie Harbringer and Pestermite doing a good job for me, especially with rancor.

I differ from the most UG builds (with ramp stuff, upheveal, meloku, genesis etc.) bc I want to have a good aggro deck which can also beat pure control. So my meta here (berlin/germany) is most like ww, boros, monoR, aggro loam, so as you can see there is a lot of aggro on the road, so thats why my deck is just a answer to most of them, i think. We have some controlish decks like oath, but no staxx or something like 5cPlaneswalker etc.

so here is my deck.


// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
    1 [DIS] Breeding Pool
    1 [10E] Faerie Conclave
    1 [EVE] Flooded Grove
    1 [ON] Flooded Strand
    1 [AN] Library of Alexandria
    1 [ON] Lonely Sandbar
    1 [DK] Maze of Ith
    1 [ON] Polluted Delta
    1 [ON] Riptide Laboratory
    10 [CS] Snow-Covered Forest
    10 [CS] Snow-Covered Island
    1 [FUT] Tolaria West
    1 [ON] Tranquil Thicket
    1 [FNM] Treetop Village
    1 [A] Tropical Island
    1 [TE] Wasteland
    1 [ON] Wooded Foothills

// Creatures
    1 [RAV] Birds of Paradise
    1 [FD] Eternal Witness
    1 [LRW] Faerie Harbinger
    1 [LRW] Garruk Wildspeaker
    1 [EVE] Glen Elendra Archmage
    1 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
    1 [ARB] Lorescale Coatl
    1 [VI] Man-o'-War
    1 [LRW] Mistbind Clique
    1 [LRW] Mulldrifter
    1 [TSB] Mystic Snake
    1 [CFX] Noble Hierarch
    1 [LRW] Pestermite
    1 [JU] Phantom Centaur
    1 [ON] Ravenous Baloth
    1 [CHK] Sakura-Tribe Elder
    1 [TSP] Scryb Ranger
    1 [AN] Serendib Efreet
    1 [MR] Solemn Simulacrum
    1 [LRW] Sower of Temptation
    1 [LRW] Spellstutter Sprite
    1 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
    1 [FD] Trinket Mage
    1 [10E] Troll Ascetic
    1 [DIS] Trygon Predator
    1 [MOR] Vendilion Clique
    1 [FUT] Venser, Shaper Savant
    1 [FNM] Wall of Blossoms
    1 [MI] Wall of Roots
    1 [OD] Werebear
    1 [EVE] Wickerbough Elder

// Spells
    1 [TSP] Ancestral Vision
    1 [US] Back to Basics
    1 [OD] Call of the Herd
    1 [RAV] Compulsive Research
    1 [FD] Condescend
    1 Control Magic
    1 [MM] Counterspell
    1 [LRW] Cryptic Command
    1 [NE] Daze
    1 [FNM] Deep Analysis
    1 [FNM] Dissipate
    1 [FD] Engineered Explosives
    1 [FNM] Fact or Fiction
    1 [LRW] Faerie Trickery
    1 [AL] Force of Will
    1 [CHK] Gifts Ungiven
    1 [TSP] Krosan Grip
    1 [RAV] Life from the Loam
    1 [LG] Mana Drain
    1 [SH] Mana Leak
    1 [UL] Miscalculation
    1 [WL] Phyrexian Furnace
    1 [PLC] Pongify
    1 [TSB] Psionic Blast
    1 [FNM] Rancor
    1 [A] Regrowth
    1 [FNM] Remand
    1 [GP] Repeal
    1 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
    1 [DIS] Spell Snare
    1 [SC] Stifle
    1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 [UD] Treachery
    1 [FD] Vedalken Shackles
    1 [DIS] Voidslime



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