Main Menu

Boros deck wins

Started by Payron, 28-05-2009, 02:54:47 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

coldcrow

That looks like a very solid list and a hassle to play against :). Can't recall another worthy card to add right of the bat.

Sensenmann

Coldcrow is right. The list is looking pretty neat and solid.

But if you happen to see a aggro-infested metagame you should probably up the curve a little bit, so that the big green dorks aren't invulnerable to your little (but fast) men.

Nice job done in creating such a list!

Payron

against the big green creatures I think about adding some "tap-creatures" but I am not sure ... the actualy plan is to get some early and fast pressure and kill him off with burn and eavasion creatures ... I was also thinking about adding Worship against aggro .. but I am not sure against control it is just like a death card ... but kind of free win against rdw and could be the edge of the damage race against RG beats or something or .. what do oyu think? .. normaly I had catayclasm in but I needed to cut something so I cutted 1 of my 10 4cc slots .. but normaly my calculations allow me to play 10 - 4cc spells ... I am rly not sure about it

And when you needed something to cut in the deck what would be the first canidates?

btw: White Knight chanced to silver knight (I mixed them up kind of)

Payron

With the M10 is coming up a new "crusade" well actualy a bit better .. and a idea poped up in my head maybe I should play some token maschines and add all the globle pump enchantments like Crusade, glorious anthem, Divine Sacrament, and the new one ... and add some token stuff like spectral procession, Militia's Pride, Raise the Alarm, Promise of Bunrei, Kjeldoran Outpost ...

What do you think would that make the deck better or worse ... I mean the tokens would make the game better against Control and aggro ... but I am rly not sure if my thoughts about this are right ...

Lightstorm

#19
Here`s my version of Boros:

Deck has 46 white (18 double and 1 triple white CC) and 18 (2 douple red CC, both 5CC spells) red sources.
Deck has 25 manasources which produce white, 12 red | + Moxes, Knight of the White Orchid and Land Tax

Lands: 32 + Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox
16 Plains
Windbrisk Heights
Flagstones of Trokair
5 Mountains
Plateau
Sacred Foundry
Battlefield Forge
City of Brass
Windswept Heath
Flooded Strand
Wooded Foothills
Rishadan Port (I just like this card so much, often helps against sweep effects)

Creatures: 42

1CC: 10
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Elvish Hexhunter (Can be found with Ranger of Eos)
Ramosian Sargeant (Deck has two good rebels)
Savannah Lions
Mother of Runes
Goldmeadow Harrier (Tappers are always nice :))
Elite Vanguard
Figure of Destiny
Grim Lavamancer
Magus of the Scroll

2CC: 19
Knight of the White Orchid
Whipcorder (Rebel)
White Knight
Silver Knight
Serra Avenger
Soltari Monk
Soltari Priest
Knight of the Holy Nimbus (Rebel)
Knight of Meadowgrain
Ronom Unicorn
Blade of the Sixth Pride
Jötun Grunt
Soltari Trooper
Mistral Charger
Stromfront Pegasus
Kataki, War`s Wage

Hearth Kami
Boros Swiftblade (?)
Goblin Legiannaire (?)

3CC: 3
Kitchen Finks
Aven Mindcensor
Magus of the Moon

4CC: 6
Calciderm
Swans of Bryn Argoll (Might look fun, but 4/3 isn`t bad and I really want to draw cards from my own bolts)
Celestial Crusader
Ranger of Eos

Skizzik
Brion Stoutarm

5CC: 3
Cloudgoat Ranger
Arc- Slogger
Siege-Gang Commander

6CC
Exalted Angel



Other spells: 27

1cc: 9
Harm`s Way (I so love this, even it`s horrible against controls)
Swords to Plowshares
Path to Exile
Chainlightning
Lightning Bolt

Mana Tithe
Land Tax
Bone Splitter
Cursed Scroll

2CC: 8
Incinerate
Volcanic Hammer
Chain of Plasma (Piece of Swans, I believe not many opponents want to get this back many times, still a bit risky)
Price of Progress
Lightning Helix

Crusade
Honor of the Pure

Winter Orb

3CC: 7
Spectral Procession
Oblivion Ring
Griffin Guide

Blood Moon

Grafted Wargear
Sword of Fire and Ice
Tangle Wire

4CC: 3
Armageddon (missing Ravages of War)
Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Ajani Vengeant (I would also like to play Ajani Goldmane, just don`t see it to be enought usefull)

Helle

Payron asked me if I could post the Boros list I've been successful in Karlsruhe with. So here it is:


Creatures

1 cc
Figure of Destiny
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Savannah Lions
Elite Vanguard
Mother of Runes
Burrenton Forge-Tender
Grim Lavamancer

2 cc
Soltari Monk
Soltari Priest
Soltari Trooper
Serra Avenger
Leonin Skyhunter
Mistral Charger
Stormfront Pegasus
White Knight
Silver Knight
Knight of the Holy Nimbus
Knight of the White Orchid
Knight of Meadowgrain
Hand of Honor
Kami of Ancient Law
Ronom Unicorn
Hellspark Elemental

3 cc
Kitchen Finks
Paladin en-Vec
Stillmoon Cavalier
Aven Riftwatcher
Aven Mindcensor
Skyknight Legionnaire
Flickerwisp
Soltari Visionary
Spectral Procession

4 cc
Flametongue Kavu
Calciderm
Brion Stoutarm
Ranger of Eos

5+ cc
Reveillark
Exalted Angel


Spells

1 cc
Tarfire
Schock
Firebolt
Rift Bolt
Lightning Bolt
Chain Lightning
Harm's Way
Swords to Plowshares
Path to Exile
AEther Vial
Cursed Scroll
Shuko

2 cc
Fire / Ice
Magma Jet
Incinerate
Volcanic Hammer
Lightning Helix
Price of Progress
Winter Orb

3 cc
Rhystic Lightning
Char
Griffin Guide
Oblivion Ring
Sword of Fire and Ice
Sword of Light and Schadow

4 cc
Armageddon
Cataclysm
Ajani Vengeant
Ajani Goldmane


Lands

Flooded Strand
Windswept Heath
Bloodstained Mire
Wooded Foothills
Plateau
Sacred Foundry
Rugged Prairie
Battlefield Forge
City of Brass
Gemstone Mine
Flagstones of Trokair
Karakas
Windbrisk Heights
Barbarian Ring
Rishadan Port
Wasteland
11 Plains
6 Mountain




cards that are sometimes found in my Deck:
Blood Moon
Magus of the Moon
Ruination
Parallax Wave

cards I'm missing:
Ravages of War
Fire Ambush



Do you think that there are any cards missing? Which cards should better be replaced?

Should I play more 1 drops? What about Equipments?

Spectral Procession was the most recent addition, so I don't have an oppinion about it so far. Is it worth while without cards like Crusade / Glorious Anthem?

Thanks in advance!

Zephyr

Spectral Procession is the best token generator ever, and you can run crusade and Honor of the Pure because you have only 5 nonwhite creatures. IMHO you could play Loxodon Warhammer which is realy good with shadow creatures. In one-mana slot you can play my favourite creature Magus of the Scroll.  I think you should play Moons (both magus and enchatment) and ruination because they won´t do anything to you and most of time will ruin opponents manabase. Hokori, Dust Drinker can be good too.
Zephyr.
Edit: Play Jotun Grunt, this card is very good!

markers

#22
[deck=""]
//Lands:
1 Arid Mesa
1  Terramorphic Expanse
1  Battlefield Forge
1  Bloodstained Mire
1  Gemstone Mine
1  Flagstones of Trokair
1  Flooded Strand
1  City of Brass
1  Reflecting Pool
1  Mishra's Factory
9  Mountain
11 Plains
1  Plateau
1  Rugged Prairie
1  Sacred Foundry
1  Wasteland

//Creatures cc1:
1 Elite Vanguard
1 Figure of Destiny
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
1 Latern Kami
1 Mother of Runes
1 Savannah Lions
1 Soltari Foot Soldier
1 Steppe Lynx

//Creatures cc2:
1 Goblin Legionnaire
1 Jötun Grunt
1 Kazandu Blademaster
1 Kami of Ancient Law
1 Knight of Meadowgrain
1 Knight of the Holy Nimbus
1 Knight of the White Orchid
1 Kor Aeronaut
1 Ronom Unicorn
1 Serra Avenger
1 Silver Knight
1 Samurai of the Pale Curtain
1 Soltari Monk
1 Soltari Priest
1 Soltari Trooper
1 Stormfront Pegasus

//Creatures cc3:
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Paladin en-Vec
1 Soltari Champion
1 Spectral Procession
1 Stillmoon Cavalier


//Creatures cc4:
1 Calciderm
1 Flametongue Kavu
1 Ranger of Eos

//Creatures cc5:
1 Baneslayer Angel

//Spells cc1:
1 AEther Vial
1 Black Vise
1 Chain Lightning
1 Bonesplitter
1 Firebolt
1 Harm's Way
1 Lava Spike
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Path to Exile
1 Rift Bolt
1 Swords to Plowshares

//Spells cc2:
1 Banefire
1 Sudden shock
1 Honor of the Pure
1 Incinerate
1 Journey to Nowhere
1 Lightning Helix
1 Magma Jet
1 Price of Progress
1 Seal of Cleansing
1 Volcanic Hammer
1 Winter Orb

//Spells cc3:
1 Char
1 Flames of the Blood Hand
1 Griffin Guide
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Schadow

//Spells cc4:
1 Ajani Vengeant
1 Armageddon
1 Cataclysm
1 Elspeth, Knight Errant

[/deck]

- I think I'll drop the Boros Recruit vs. the Landfall-Lynx
- The Skyknight will be cut for a Soltari Champion
- and the Exalted Angel will be replaced by an Baneslayer Angel

Any thoughts?

cedzoh

-i think 34 lands are too much.
-terramorphic expanse is too slow-->you dont want to have a land that comes into play tapped
-steppe lynx is only good, if you can trigger it every turn. but if you cut the lands (what i suggest, it is not good)
-i would play more 1 drops
-kazandu blademaster: has no evasion
-kitchen finks: no evasion. it's only usefull against other aggro decks
-Stillmoon Cavalier: too expensive
-Black Vise: only good if you drop it turn 1, or after you have destroyed all lands
-Lava Spike: doesn't kill creatures
-banefire: too expensive


-cards that you could consider playing:

-arc-slogger: very good topdeck, can attack for 4 and "shock" multiple times
-ajani goldmane: pumps your team and you can block
-sulfuric vortex: very good. stops opponents finks. "shocks" every turn. i would play this in place of Flames of the Blood Hand
-kor skyfisher: helps fix your mana, attacks for 2, returns kavu and ranger (and Goblin Bushwhacker )
-Goblin Bushwhacker: i just started playing him and he is awesome (see standard decks)


cedzoh

#24
// Lands
   1 [JGC] Mishra's Factory
   1 [MOR] Mutavault
   1 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
   1 [ON] Wooded Foothills
   1 [TSP] Flagstones of Trokair
   1 [TE] Wasteland
   1 [ON] Flooded Strand
   1 [ON] Windswept Heath
   1 [ZEN] Arid Mesa
   1 [A] Plateau
   1 [9E] Battlefield Forge
   1 [AN] City of Brass
   1 [RAV] Sacred Foundry
   1 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
   6 [ZEN] Mountain (1)
   1 [EVE] Rugged Prairie
   9 [ZEN] Plains (1)
   1 [ZEN] Marsh Flats

// Creatures
-cc1:
   1 [SHM] Tattermunge Maniac
   1 [EVE] Figure of Destiny
   1 [ZEN] Goblin Bushwhacker
   1 [TO] Grim Lavamancer
   1 [TE] Soltari Foot Soldier
   1 [ALA] Akrasan Squire
   1 [M10] Elite Vanguard
   1 [UL] Mother of Runes
   1 [A] Savannah Lions
   1 [CHK] Isamaru, Hound of Konda
   1 [LE] Deftblade Elite
   1 [CHK] Lantern Kami
   1 [LRW] Goldmeadow Harrier
    1 Goblin guide
-cc2:
   1 [CHK] Hearth Kami
   1 [CFX] Hellspark Elemental
   1 [TE] Soltari Trooper
   1 [CHK] Kami of Ancient Law
   1 [CS] Jotun Grunt
   1 [CFX] Aven Squire
   1 [M10] Stormfront Pegasus
   1 [ZEN] Kor Skyfisher
   1 [ARB] Cerodon Yearling
   1 [TSP] Serra Avenger
   1 [ZEN] Kor Aeronaut
   1 [LRW] Knight of Meadowgrain
   1 [TE] Soltari Monk
   1 [TE] Soltari Priest
   1 [ALA] Knight of the White Orchid
-cc3:
   1 [EVE] Flickerwisp
   1 [FUT] Magus of the Moon
   1 [FUT] Aven Mindcensor
-cc4:
   1 [ALA] Ranger of Eos
-cc4:
   1 [MR] Arc-Slogger

// Spells
-cc1:
   1 [DS] AEther Vial
   1 [ARE] Bonesplitter
   1 [TE] Cursed Scroll
   1 [LG] Chain Lightning
   1 [M10] Lightning Bolt
   1 [ZEN] Burst Lightning
   1 [OD] Firebolt
   1 [FNM] Swords to Plowshares
   1 [LG] Land Tax
   1 [VI] Tithe
   1 [M10] Harm's Way
   1 [CFX] Path to Exile
-cc2:
   1 [IA] Incinerate
   1 [P2] Volcanic Hammer
   1 [FD] Magma Jet
   1 [TSP] Sudden Shock
   1 [EX] Price of Progress
   1 [M10] Honor of the Pure
   1 [TSB] Disenchant
   1 Winter Orb
   1 [MR] Mask of Memory
   1 [RAV] Lightning Helix
-cc3:
   1 [JU] Browbeat
   1 [TSP] Rift Bolt
   1 [RAV] Char
   1 [TSP] Griffin Guide
   1 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
   1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
   1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
   1 [FD] Grafted Wargear
    1 Sulfuric vortex
-cc4:
   1 [EX] Cataclysm
   1 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant
   1 [M10] Ajani Goldmane
   1 [A] Armageddon

i need to find a slot for parallax wave. any ideas what i could cut? [not browbeat! ;-)  ]
i am not so sure about:
-aven aquire. is he good or should i replace him by a 2/1 flyer?
-griffin guide: everybody says he is great. but wont another creature be better?
-tithe/land tax: sometimes i open with a land tax and than i can only start attacking turn 3. i think it slows down the deck. on the other side it has good synergies with the ld cards.
-flickerwisp

thoughts are welcome


Helle

As you mentioned before, I'd definitly kick Browbeat ;) I don't like cards that leave decissions to your opponent.

I didn't like Griffin Guide and Grafted Wargear, either. They're begging for 2:1!

Aven Spire is ok, but Mistal Charger is better in almost every situation. You don't want to keep attacking with one creature only, so exalted is next to useless. The psuedo-haste doesn't compensate that.

Don't cut Flickerwisp! 3 power evasion for 3cc is great! And the ability is really useful! Just think of enemy blockers, planeswalker or Parallax Wave!

Also, I love Stillmoon Cavalier. I don't think its a must-play though. But protection from two removal colors simply convince me.

W0lf

Greetings

I read your decklist with interest and couldn`t help but to register and post my own version of Boros.
It might be helpful for you.
I´m playing 1-2 tournaments per Month with this Deck and i can say that it`s quite solid against most other decks.
I also played a similar deck on new year`s eve in Hanau but was only able to reach the 20th place in the end, after a good start i lost the last 3 rounds but mainly because i was rly tired and made stupid mistakes.

The deck is tuned for an aggro heavy meta atm so some cards may suprise you...
anyway here`s the list in MWS :D

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
    7 [MR] Plains (1)
    1 [MM] Rishadan Port
    1 [AQ] Mishra's Factory (4)
    1 [MOR] Mutavault
    1 [DS] Blinkmoth Nexus
    1 [TSP] Flagstones of Trokair
    1 [OD] Barbarian Ring
    1 [TE] Wasteland
    7 [P2] Mountain (3)
    1 [AP] Battlefield Forge
    1 [EVE] Rugged Prairie
    1 [RAV] Sacred Foundry
    1 [A] Plateau
    1 [ZEN] Marsh Flats
    1 [ZEN] Arid Mesa
    1 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
    1 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
    1 [ON] Windswept Heath
    1 [ON] Flooded Strand

// Creatures
    1 [HOP] Cerodon Yearling
    1 [CHK] Lantern Kami
    1 [TE] Jackal Pup
    1 [ZEN] Goblin Bushwhacker
    1 [EVE] Figure of Destiny
    1 [DIS] Mistral Charger
    1 [TE] Soltari Monk
    1 [TO] Grim Lavamancer
    1 [FUT] Magus of the Moon
    1 [FNM] Mother of Runes
    1 [ZEN] Goblin Guide
    1 [CHK] Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
    1 [10E] Paladin en-Vec
    1 [10E] Suntail Hawk
    1 [TE] Soltari Priest
    1 [EVE] Flickerwisp
    1 [M10] Elite Vanguard
    1 [CHP] Serra Avenger
    1 [TE] Soltari Foot Soldier
    1 [M10] Stormfront Pegasus
    1 [TSP] Greater Gargadon
    1 [SHM] Tattermunge Maniac
    1 [SH] Soltari Champion
    1 [ZEN] Kor Aeronaut
    1 [HOP] Boros Swiftblade
    1 [ZEN] Kor Skyfisher
    1 [FUT] Aven Mindcensor
    1 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
    1 [9E] Leonin Skyhunter
    1 [CHK] Hearth Kami
    1 [DIS] Azorius Guildmage
    1 [ALA] Knight of the White Orchid
    1 [TE] Soltari Trooper
    1 [EVE] Stillmoon Cavalier
    1 [CHK] Isamaru, Hound of Konda
    1 Savannah Lions
    1 [WWK] Kor Firewalker
    1 [WWK] Stoneforge Mystic

// Spells
    1 [DD2] Demonfire
    1 [FD] Grafted Wargear
    1 [ARE] Bonesplitter
    1 [EX] Price of Progress
    1 [5E] Armageddon
    1 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
    1 [FD] Magma Jet
    1 [DS] AEther Vial
    1 [NE] Parallax Wave
    1 [P3] Ravages of War
    1 [EX] Cataclysm
    1 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant
    1 [ALA] Ajani Vengeant
    1 [ZEN] Journey to Nowhere
    1 [DLM] Incinerate
    1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 [VI] Tithe
    1 [SH] Mox Diamond
    1 [4E] Swords to Plowshares
    1 [LG] Chain Lightning
    1 [REL] Sudden Shock
    1 [ZEN] Burst Lightning
    1 [5E] Winter Orb
    1 [PLC] Mana Tithe
    1 [RAV] Char
    1 [REW] Lightning Helix
    1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
    1 [M10] Honor of the Pure
    1 [CFX] Path to Exile
    1 Lightning Bolt
    1 [OV] Cursed Scroll





cedzoh

#27
hi everyone. this is my actual boros deck.
i am still not totaly satisfied with it (partly because ravages of war ist still missing).

i give you some statistics:
-16 cmc1 creatures, 16 cmc2 creatures, 3 cmc3 creatures, 1 cmc4 creature, 1 cmc5 creature -->37 total
-10 cmc1 spells, 10 cmc2 spells, 7 cmc3 spells, 5 cmc5 spells -->32 total
-8 basic plains, 6 basic mountains, 7 fetchlands, 3 colorless lands. 22 sources of white mana, 18 sources of red mana.

cards i would like to include:
-stonecloaker (to have a second out against opposing graveyards). I am wondering if he is good enough: will i be able often enough to cast him and return another creture? is he too expensive? do i even need another solution against graveyards?
-cataclysm (budget ravages of war).
-journey to nowhere (handles big creatures which i can kill only with path, sword and oring)

cards i could cut:
- ajani goldmane. its bad on an empty board, but great if i have 2+ creatures
- cerodon yearling. no evasion, but haste. vigilance is not soooo important.

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
   1 [JGC] Mishra's Factory
   1 [MOR] Mutavault
   1 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
   1 [ON] Wooded Foothills
   1 [TSP] Flagstones of Trokair
   1 [TE] Wasteland
   1 [ON] Flooded Strand
   1 [ON] Windswept Heath
   1 [ZEN] Arid Mesa
   1 [A] Plateau
   1 [9E] Battlefield Forge
   1 [AN] City of Brass
   1 [RAV] Sacred Foundry
   1 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
   6 [ZEN] Mountain (1)
   1 [EVE] Rugged Prairie
   8 [ZEN] Plains (1)
   1 [ZEN] Marsh Flats
   1 [LG] Karakas

// Creatures
   1 [SHM] Tattermunge Maniac
   1 [EVE] Figure of Destiny
   1 [ZEN] Goblin Bushwhacker
   1 [TO] Grim Lavamancer
   1 [TE] Soltari Foot Soldier
   1 [M10] Elite Vanguard
   1 [UL] Mother of Runes
   1 [A] Savannah Lions
   1 [CHK] Isamaru, Hound of Konda
   1 [LE] Deftblade Elite
   1 [CHK] Lantern Kami
   1 [LRW] Goldmeadow Harrier
   1 [CHK] Hearth Kami
   1 [CFX] Hellspark Elemental
   1 [TE] Soltari Trooper
   1 [CHK] Kami of Ancient Law
   1 [CS] Jotun Grunt
   1 [M10] Stormfront Pegasus
   1 [ZEN] Kor Skyfisher
   1 [ARB] Cerodon Yearling
   1 [TSP] Serra Avenger
   1 [ZEN] Kor Aeronaut
   1 [LRW] Knight of Meadowgrain
   1 [TE] Soltari Monk
   1 [TE] Soltari Priest
   1 [ALA] Knight of the White Orchid
   1 [EVE] Flickerwisp
   1 [FUT] Magus of the Moon
   1 [FUT] Aven Mindcensor
   1 [ALA] Ranger of Eos
   1 [MR] Arc-Slogger
   1 [ZEN] Goblin Guide
   1 [DIS] Mistral Charger
   1 [WWK] Stoneforge Mystic
   1 [10E] Suntail Hawk
   1 [ROE] Student of Warfare
   1 [ON] Weathered Wayfarer

// Spells
   1 [ARE] Bonesplitter
   1 [TE] Cursed Scroll
   1 [LG] Chain Lightning
   1 [M10] Lightning Bolt
   1 [ZEN] Burst Lightning
   1 [OD] Firebolt
   1 [FNM] Swords to Plowshares
   1 [M10] Harm's Way
   1 [CFX] Path to Exile
   1 [IA] Incinerate
   1 [P2] Volcanic Hammer
   1 [FD] Magma Jet
   1 [TSP] Sudden Shock
   1 [EX] Price of Progress
   1 [M10] Honor of the Pure
   1 [TSB] Disenchant
   1 Winter Orb
   1 [MR] Mask of Memory
   1 [RAV] Lightning Helix
   1 [TSP] Rift Bolt
   1 [RAV] Char
   1 [TSP] Griffin Guide
   1 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
   1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
   1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
   1 [FD] Grafted Wargear
   1 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant
   1 [M10] Ajani Goldmane
   1 [A] Armageddon
   1 [SC] Sulfuric Vortex
   1 [NE] Parallax Wave
   1 [ALA] Ajani Vengeant