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Good tutors in my opinion are needed to be able to compete with fast aggressive decks.

They are absolutely required in a lot "non standard" builds that would be otherwise unplayable.

URx doesn't need them, goodstuff can replace them so I think they are totally fine and helpfull for a good meta.

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For me the format seems pretty fine at the moment, there are different / diversive top 8 in all major tournaments.
I think Ux took the place of Blood in being the most played / successful deck overall.

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BAN ? Y/N
Demonic Tutor      N - this makes "non-standard" decks playable, there is no real replacement for those decks that have to deal with decks killing you in 4 turns (RDW, fast Aggro)
Fastbond      N - requires really special setting, almost only used in combo shells but at the moment don't see that it's over the edge
Mana Drain      N - could be a potential ban candidate if you would like to weaken blue decks as it's one of the strongest cards for blue control mages
Mishra's Workshop   N - requires special setting, is there forever and never had the feeling it's too strong
Mystical Tutor       N - personally I like having this in the format because the cheap counters make combo playable and not auto loose because of the speed of the format (similar to DT)
Oath of Druids       N - it would destroy a lot of archetypes which are strong but beatable and it's good against creature strategies which are getting better and better (there are also many more good solutions meanwhile)
Tainted Pact      N - not amazing in combo because of the exiling, kind of random to ban it because of blood which is anyway not dominating right now, seems like a fair card in general  
Timetwister      N - This card is only relevant for combo decks, as long as not all tournaments are dominated by combo decks there is no need to ban the card
Tolarian Academy   N - fast mana is dangerous, but the cost of having a artifact heavy deck/hand is fine.
Yawgmoth's Will      N - This card is only relevant for combo decks, as long as not all tournaments are dominated by combo decks there is no need to ban the card

Unban Y/N
Gifts Ungiven      N - my assumption is that for 4 mana it's pretty mana intensive, if you look at vintage everyone thought that after unrestriction a lot of gift decks will appear but in the meantime the formats all got faster, on the other hand you have the Unburial Rites combo in addition so there is quite some risk here.
Stoneforge Mystic   N - would like to play it but fear another story like Natural Order here

Did mine.

@olii: Again, around 21/21.30 every day available.

Today before 17:00 or after 21:00.

Would be available now.

Today would be better for me, or later tomorrow.

Most days after 21:00

derStefan82 (BUG Combos) vs Maqi (4C Blood) 2:0

game 1

mulligan "Ghastly Demise, Verdant Catacombs, Remand,fastbond, Preordain, Dark Ritual, Watery Grave" cause I fear that I have no direct way to combo against an aggresive deck

keep "Cephalid Coliseum, Snow-Cov. Forest, Mystical Tutor, Marsh Flats, Tropical Island, Gitaxian Probe, Rune Scarred Demond" basically I can go of with mystical tutor so hoping thats fast enough against Vlood otherwise worse than 1st hand

- Maqi starts with Taiga, Deathrite
- Me drawing Mental Misstep playing Tropical, Gitaxian Probe seeing Abrupt Decay, Caves of Koilos, Xenagos, Sorin, Lingering Souls drawing Duress
- Maqi playing Caves, Lingering Souls
- Me drawing Bayou, play Bayou, Duress for Decay in case I go for Oath and he's low on lands
- Maqi pacting for another land taking Arid Mesa for Plateau flashback Lingering Souls
- Me drawing Emrakul so having the second Oath target on hand so playing Marsh flats go, at this point I'm feeling worried to have chances in this game
- Maqi attacking me to 13 and casting Thoughtseize which get misstepped, me playing eot mystical for Toxic Deluge as I don't have  correct mana and life for Doomsday or other combos
- Me deluging all of his creatures go eot I go to 7 because of Bolt, Deluge and Fetch
- Maqi still at three lands go
- Me drawing Jace, Architect of Thoughts play and plus
- He no land go
- Me draw Crop Rotation, play for Wasteland, Jace plus
- He no land go
- Me draw Intuition for Loam, Depth, Stage getting Depth playing it, Jace plus
- He draws land plays and go
- Me dredge, play loam, waste, jace plus go, deciding for Wasteland here as I'm much ahead on board so try to play it save
- He no land go
- Me option of winning via Jace ultimate or Marrit Large
winning with Marrit Large


game 2

mulligan "Sultai Charm, Bayou, Shelldock Isle, Force, Lat-Nams Legacy, Dig Through Time, Spell Pierce" as it does not seem exciting against Blood

keep busted hand with "Watery Grave, Fastbond, Mirri's Guile, Merchant Scroll, Urborg, Tropical Island", Frantic Search" basically Fastbod and Scroll should win pretty fast

- Maqi keeping 6, playing Plains go
- Me draw Thespian stage, play Tropical, Fastbond, Watery GraveThespian Stage, Merchant Scroll for Intuition, go
- Maqi playing Savannah, Voice
- Me draw Muddle the Mixture, play Intuition for Loam, Wasteland, Depth, getting Depth playing it, go
- Maqi attack with Voice, play Temple Garden, Fleeceman Lion, go
- Me draw Evasive Action, playing Urborg, Frantic Search cause I want to find another land to have 6 lands (4 for combo + 2 for Counter), find Bloodstained Mire and Liliana, discard Liliana, Guile, go
- Maqi attacking me down to 8 life, Land, go
Me eot Marrit Large for the win

Thanks for good games.

Fine for me now

@Maqi: Today between 4-6 or after 10:30

Tomorrow I'm pretty flexible in the morning or the late evenging.

Hi Maqi,

I'm available most days after 21:00.
Just ping me for our match.

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What I don't like on this thread is that there is that there is no real discussions about changes.

Besides a post from Christof and some comments from Jonnie there is no discussion about what to do.

Only crying and battling.

I shared my ideas about thinking about LED/Fastbond to weaken combo decks but not destorying archetypes but there was less (nearly no) discussion.

As well there were not any suggestions.

Do you want to have Academy banned (Berlin players)?

Or do you think like me that Academy and Oath are 2 cards which enable broken strategies but are also enablers for quite a number of archetypes.

That's why my hope was more in discussing cards like LED/Will/Fastbond which create higher consistency of those decks but not destroy them if they get the hammer.