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#1
Official Announcements / Leaving the council
02-01-2019, 06:22:13 PM
Hello guys,



I will leave the council for personal reasons. I just finished my Bachelor and going over into a new chapter of my life, which doesn't leave as much free time as I would like for my beloved hobby Magic and my favorite format Highlander. I won't find too much time to play and also moved away from my local community. Therefore I decided that it's the best for the format and there for you guys to step back and give someone else the chance to bring out format forward. I didn't wanted to stay and be inactive as a member of the council, our format has enough dedicated people to fill the spot a lot better, then me right now.

I hope I will find time to play in some bigger tournament in the future to meet some of you guys again.

Greetings

Jan
#2
Changes to the present banned list, effective 10/15/2018:

Banned:                                                     
-

Unbanned:                                                    
-
                                               

Current watchlists:

Ban watchlist:
                                                   
Blood Moon
Back to Basics
Bring to Light
• Demonic Tutor
• Dig Through Time
• Entomb
• Imperial Seal
• Mana Drain
• Oath of Druids
• Scapeshift *new*
• Tainted Pact
• Tolarian Academy
• Treasure Cruise
• True-Name Nemesis


                                             
Unban watchlist:                                                      
• Birthing Pod *new*
• Gifts Ungiven
• Umezawa's Jitte *new*
• Skullclamp *new*


Single cards explanations:


Ban-Watchlist:


Back to Basics and Blood Moon

We are aware Back to Basics and Blood Moon often create frustrating play experiences. There is a long history of debate about those cards and on whether they should be legal or not. Currently, we are of the opinion that – despite the negative side effects which come along with them – both Back to Basics and Blood Moon should stay in the format because they serve as stern punishers for the more "greedy" multicolored strategies. This primarily means combo decks, which currently are some of the better performing decks overall.

Bring to Light and Scapeshift

In an effort to weaken the Scapeshift archetype – to take the wind out of its sails, so to speak – we first thought that banning a tutor from which only the Scapeshift deck profited would be a good idea. In the end though and after some more deliberation, we believe Bring to Light to be interchangeable in the deck and that a ban wouldn't reduce the overall power-level of the deck by enough. This, together with the fact that banning an otherwise totally fine card would be a strange thing to do, leads us to removing Bring to Light from the ban watchlist.

Instead we opted for a watchlisting of Scapeshift itself. This move seems harsh at first glance but ultimately enables us to make the appropriate decision, should the need to act arise. This is because not only do we now have the option of banning Scapeshift directly but also have the important role-players on watch as well. These would be Treasure Cruise, Dig Through Time, Demonic Tutor and Mana Drain. A banning of one of those would hit Scapeshift in a meaningful way (rather than not very much at all like with the banning of Bring To Light).

Basically we have now set us up for three possible scenarios:
First, ban Scapeshift directly if the deck overly dominates other options.
Second, ban one ore more important roleplayers or tutors in order to weaken the core of the deck.
Third, ban nothing at all if the deck continues to be strong but without dominating other options.


Unban-Watchlist:

Birthing Pod


It can be argued, the current metagame creates incentives for players to play blue-based decks, maybe blue-black at the core with tutors and a combo built in. Also, there are incentives to play the very successful red deck. Unbanning Birthing Pod would create incentives on the other side of the metagame spectrum. Neither blue based control or combo-control decks, nor mono red profit from Birthing Pod. An unban would strengthen green-based midrange decks for which there currently exists rather little payoff.

We acknowledge the fact of Birthing Pod having utterly dominated the metagame during its heyday. But we do believe the current configuration of dominating decks could handle the threat of Birthing Pod better and its unban could lead to a more vibrant back and forth in the ever-changing arena which is the Highlander metagame. Also as a sidenote, there have been cards added to the highlander cardpool, which are very maindeckable and function as solutions for Birthing Pod (among others Kolaghan's Command and Abrade come to mind, as does the newly printed Knight of Autumn), thus increasing the overall outs to the strong artifact.

Umezawa's Jitte

Similarly to the argument for Birthing Pod, we want to watchlist Umezawa's Jitte because an unban would create incentives for players to place their bets on more creature-heavy decks. Umezawa's Jitte would also provide a counterbalance to mono red aggro.

Skullclamp

Skullclamp again slightly shifts the gravitational center of the metagame in the direction of creature decks. Skullclamp would be a great boon for the mono red deck, which – in a theoretical world of Birthing Pod and Umezawa's Jitte being legal – would otherwise get the short end of the deal.
Skullclamp would also strengthen midrange strategies with a sacrifice theme. Pattern-Rector variants come to mind as do decks revolving around cards like Bloodghast, Entomb, Unearth, Stoneforge Mystic, Phyrexian Tower, Lingering Souls, Recurring Nightmare and so on. There certainly seems to be a viable deck which currently lacks just a little bit of synergistic power – power which Skullclamp could provide.
#3

Cards on the following list will be closely observed and are potential candidates for a banning on October 15th, 2018.

Ban-Watchlist:

    Back to Basics
    Blood Moon
    Bring to Light
    Demonic Tutor
    Dig Through Time
    Entomb
    Imperial Seal
    Mana Drain
    Oath of Druids
    Tainted Pact
    Tolarian Academy
    Treasure Cruise
    True-Name Nemesis


Cards from the following list are still banned but will be under testing for a potential unbanning on October 15th, 2018.


Unban-Watchlist:

    Gifts Ungiven
    Mystical Tutor
    Skullclamp
#4
Reports / Report Volcano Caup [28 players]
25-02-2018, 09:51:36 PM
Hey guys,

I finaly found some time to give you some insight to the volcano cup.

Standings after swiss:



Place      Name        Deck                 Points
1Stefan S.Sultai Oath Combo13
2Philip E.Dimir Control11
3Markus G.Pattern Rector11
4Kai T.Izzet Control11
5Jan D.Abzan Midrang10
6Gerry S.Dimir Combo Control10
7Manuel H.Gruul Midrange10
8Alexander B.Patter Rector9
9Fabian M.5c Reanimator9
10Xiaoliang Y.Jeskai Control9
11Jan M.4c (w/o W) Scapeshift9
12Fabian B.Naya Aggr9
13Robert F.Abzan Midrange9
14Alexander R.Esper Planswalker7
15Florian K.Azorius Skies7
16Daniel S.RDW6
17Bernhard F.Grixis Control6
18Hüseyin B.Abzan Midrange6
19Max H.Grixis Midrange6
20Manuel M.Gruul Midrange6
21Thomas S.4c (w/o R) Reanimator6
22Paul W.4c Blood6
23Georg B.4c Blood6
24Axel H.Abzan Midrange4
25Christian G.Izzet Control3
26Thomas H.Izzet Control3
27Justus H.4c (w/o G) Midrange3
28Sebastian R.5c Hermit0


Metagame breakdown:


Abzan Midrange4
Izzet Control3
Dimir Control2
4c Blood2
Gruul Midrange2
Pattern Rector2
Reanimator2
4c (w/o G) Midrange1
Hermit combo1
Azorius Skies1
Esper Control1
Grixis Control1
Grixis Midrange1
Jeskai Control1
Naya Aggro1
Oath1
RDW1
Scapeshift1


Archtyps:



Midrange10
Control7
Combo Control3
Combo3
Midrange Combo2
Aggro2
Aggro Control1



Top 8 Brackets:

Quarter Finals:


Stefan s. - Sultai Oath Combo
Alexander B. - Pattern Rector

Kai T. - Izzet Control
Jan D. - Abzan Midrange

Markus G. - Pattern Rector
Gerry S. - Dimir Combo Control

Philip E. - Dimir Control
Manuel H. - Gruul Midrange

Semi Finals:


Stefan s. - Sultai Oath Combo
Kai T. - Izzet Control


Gerry S. - Dimir Combo Control

Philip E. - Dimir Control

Finals:

Stefan s. - Sultai Oath Combo
Philip E. - Dimir Control

Top 8 lists: https://www.cardmarket.com/de/Magic/Decks/Events/Volcano-Cup-Mannheim-2018-02-03

#5
Hi guys,

We would like to have a discussion started about the upcoming Banlist changes. As you know the council discussed and votes for bannings, unbannings and watch list changes. So here is your chance to help us evaluate the meta game and discuss if there needs to be something changed or if maybe a banned card is just to weak for the metagame and is therefore a safe unban.

Just to have an overview here are the cards which could enter or leave the format at 1. April:

Ban watchlist:

Back to Basics
Blood Moon
Demonic Tutor
Dig Through Time
Entomb
Imperial Seal
Mana Drain
Oath of Druids
Tainted Pact
Tolarian Academy
Treasure Cruise
Yawgmoth's Will


unban Watchlist

Gifts Ungiven
Mystical Tutor



The whole banlist can be looked at here http://highlandermagic.info/index.php?id=bannedlist


I would love to get some feedback here :)
#6
Hey there,

this thread will be for all information about the Tiki Cup, which took place at the 21.10.2017. 40 Players played about the honor to be the one Highlander.

Top8 standings after swiss:

1. Max H. - Grixis Midrange - 15pts
2. Aleksander Y. - Gruul Midrange - 15pts
3. Fabian M. - Izzet Control - 14pts
4. Daniel S. - RDW - 13pts
5. Paul W. - Mardu Smaragd - 13pts
6. Seabastian Z. - 4c (w/o W) Scapeshift - 13pts
7. Patrick P. - Pattern Rector - 13
8. Xiaoliang Y. - Jeskai Control - 13pts
9. Thomas H. - RDW - 12pts
10. Christian H. - 4c Blood - 12pts
11. Justus H. - 4c (w/o G) Midrange - 12pts
12. Jan M. - Artifact Combo - 12pts
13. Timo K. - White Weenie - 12pts
14. Georg B. - 4c Blood - 10pts
15. Dennis S. - Esper Control - 10pts
16. Gerry S. - 4c (w/o W) Scapeshift - 9pts
17. Fabian B. - Naya Midrange - 9pts
18. Thomas S. - Izzet Control - 9pts
19. Stefan S. - Sultai Oath Combo - 9pts
20. Martin Z. - Mono U Control - 9pts
21. Kai T. - Izzet Control - 9pts
22. Tobias D. - Storm Combo - 9pts
23. Manuel H. - Gruul Midrange - 9pts
24. Philip E. - RDW - 9pts
26. Romain D. - Bant Midrange - 7pts
27. Hüseyin B. - Esper Control - 6pts
28. Manuel M. - Gruul Midrange - 6pts
29. Jan-hinrich R. - Selesnya Ramp - 6pts
30. Jan D. - Jeskai Midrange - 6pts
31. Thomas H. - RDW - 6pts
32. Tobias M. - Abzan Midrange - 6pts
33. Jan S. - Abzan Midrange - 5pts
34. Florian K. - 5c Midrange - 4pts
38. Carsten B. - 4c Blood - 3pts

DROPS:
Christian G. - Izzet Control
Danilo Z. - Bant Midrange
Christof S. - Izzet Control
Marcel S. - Dimir Control
Oliver M. - Azorius Control
Julien K - Grixis Midrange



Final Standings:

Top2 Daniel S. - RDW
Top2 Seabastian Z. - 4c (w/o W) Scapeshift
3. Patrick P. - Pattern Rector
4. Xiaoliang Y. - Jeskai Control
5. Max H. - Grixis Midrange
6. Aleksander Y. - Gruul Midrange
7. Fabian M. - Izzet Control
8. Paul W. - Mardu Smaragd





Metagame Breakdown

Aggro   

RDW   4
White Weenie   1

Midrange   
4c Blood   4
Gruul Midrange   3
Grixis Midrange   2
Abzan Midrange   2
Bant Midrange   2
4c (w/o G) Midrange   1
Jeskai Midrange   1
5c Midrange   1
Naya Midrange   1


Control   
Izzet Control   4
Esper Control   2
Azorius Control   1
Dimir Control   1
Mono U Control   1
Jeskai Control   1

Combo   
Scapeshift   2
Pattern Rector   1
Artifact Combo   1
Oath Combo   1
Storm Combo   1



There was also a Team event with following standings:

1. Comic Attack
2./3. Alphagene
2./3. Scapeshift im Herzen
4./5. Max Hütte 10
4./5. Thing in the Ice
6. Xiao und 2 Tiger
7. En Frangford verstoht ous eh koiner
#7
Hey,

last weekend we had an awsome tournament in bratislava and I wanted to share the information in this thread. We had 57 players fighting for an awsome pricepool on this weekend, which prepared to fight with there best decks against each other. After 6 rounds of swiss we had following standings, which started of the top8:


1.   Roman A. – UWb Control – 14 pts
2.   Jan M. – 4c(w/o W) Scapeshift – 14 pts
3.   Lukas B. - Izzet Control - 14 pts
4.   Kristian M. – Selesyna Midrange - 14 pts
5.   Dalibor S. – 5c Reanimator – 13 pts.
6.   Tomas V. - UWb Helm control - 13 pts
7.   Patrik S. – Abzan Pattern Rector – 13 pts
8.   Fabian M. – Izzet Control – 13 pts
first parings in the top8 are the following:

Roman A. – UWb Control  vs  Fabian M. – Izzet Control 

Jan M. – 4c(w/o W) Scapeshift  vs  Patrik S. – Abzan Pattern Rector

Lukas B. - Izzet Control
  vs  Tomas V. - UWb Helm control

Kristian M. – Selesyna Midrange  vs  Dalibor S. – 5c Reanimator


Semi Finals:

Dalibor S. – 5c Reanimator  vs  Fabian M. – Izzet Control


Jan M. – 4c(w/o W) Scapeshift
  vs  Tomas V. - UWb Helm control

Finals:

Jan M. – 4c(w/o W) Scapeshift  vs  Fabian M. – Izzet Control
#8
Changes to the present banned list, effective 10/15/2017:

Banned:


Mystical Tutor

Unbanned:                                                    

Entomb
Imperial Seal


Current watchlists:

Ban watchlist:                                                    

Back to Basics  
Blood Moon  
Demonic Tutor
Dig Through Time
Entomb *New*
Grindstone *New*
Imperial Seal *New*
Mana Drain
Oath of Druids
Stoneforge Mystic
Tainted Pact
Tolarian Academy
Treasure Cruise
Yawgmoth's Will
                                             
Unban watchlist:                                                      

Birthing Pod
Mystical Tutor *New*


Single cards explanations:


Ban:

Mystical Tutor:
There were more reasons for banning of this card. Huge dominance of blue decks in the format - this is a growing topic that needed to be addressed and this might be the first step of it. With many calling for ban of more blue cards (Dig Through Time and Mana Drain being the other main calls), Mystical tutor makes most sense currently - with the unbanning of Entomb and Imperial Seal. While being less powerful in abstract than Demonic Tutor, the fact that it is blue, instant and appears in what is widely viewed as a current best deck (Izzet), makes it currently the right choice for ban. The usage as a "Miracle tutor" is just another point of this card why it got the vote.

Unban:

Imperial Seal:
This card has been on the banned list since 07/15/2006 partly for its price, but since there was lately another printing of it in the form of Judge rewards card, this reason lost its relevance a bit. On the other hand it's powerlevel is also something, that the council evaluated during its' unbanning - in other singleton formats, where this card is allowed, it doesn't show in big numbers. Mostly it appears in pure combo decks and even there, it is not stronger than tutors we already have in our format. The cost of 2 life might be pricey in our current meta with monoRed around, sorcery speed is also a downside to similar tutors like (Enlightened, Worldly and Mystical). Therefore we think it is the right time to try it and give it a chance.

Entomb:
As one of the strongest reanimator spells of all time (banned since 04/15/2010), this card for sure brings some questions to the format, that need to be answered. The most obvious one is - will it bring the Reanimator deck to tier1 level? Due to current blue decks dominancy as the usual predator to combo decks we think it will not happen, but we will closely monitor whether it doesn't harm the format too much and in case it does a banhammer might be used once again here.

Unban-Watchlist:


Grindstone
Since the unbannning of this card (04/15/2017), it is mostly invisible in our format and while we know it has some potential in a combo artifact deck, the deck didn't show up more neither changed the meta at all. For the first time since 2008 players had an option to play Painter's Servant combo again, but it looks like it is not a boogeyman anymore. Also, due to Stoneforge Mystic, artifact hate cards are now a bit more common in the format. So we are pretty confident that unbanning was correct and therefore we are removing it also from the watchlist.


Edit by pyyhttu Sun Oct  1 11:46:04 UTC 2017: Announcement was missing watchlistings of Entomb of Imperial seal. Added. Watchlist contained false entry, Fastbond. Removed. (It was already removed from watchlist on July 1st).
#9
Hello,

we had a 24 players Highlander tournemant at and sideevent in Hamburg yesterday.


1. Vogel, A - Izzet Control - 13pts
2. Baurette, M - Selesyna Elves - 13pts
3. Rilke, S - 4c(w/o R) Hermit Combo - 12
4. Münch, J - 4c(w/o W) Scapeshift - 12
5. Vonderberg, S - 5c Reanimator - 9
6. Alex, T - Izzet Control - 9
7. Wendorf, L - Azorius Control - 9
8. Rudolf, B - 4c Blood - 9
9. Morschel, O - Grixis Reanimator - 9
10. Milke, F - Izzset Control - 9
11. Wendrof, T - Gruul Midrange - 9
12. Müller, B - Naja Midrange - 7
13. Kurpicz, F - 5c Goodstuff - 7
14. Sabel, D - Selesyna Hatebears - 7
15. Cahsar, M - 4c Blood - 6
16. Faber, M - 4c Blood - 6
17. Zdrodowski, P - Azorius Control - 6
18. Lompa, M - RDW - 6
19. Musmacher, T - Lands - 3
20. Quade, C - Temur Tempo - 3
21. Pauli, M - Esper Control - DROP
22. Knelangen, M - WW - DROP
23. Jaußen, M - Izzet Control (B splash) - DROP
24. Halme, J - 4c Blood - DROP
#10
Hey,

in Hamburg will be a HL sideevent, so everybody who is there anyways can join.

Reg.: 14:00
Start: 15:00
Entry Fee: 20€
Prizes:  75% of the entry fee will be cashed out in single cards.cAdditionally, the winner will receive 1 playmat. Prize table will be published immediately after registration.
More info about the Highlander format on www.highlandermagic.info.

link: http://series.magiccardmarket.eu/mkm-series-hamburg-2017/
#11
Reports / Big Kahuna 2018 - 15.07.2017
16-07-2017, 06:50:40 PM
Big Kahuna 2018 with 27 players

Top8

1. Esper Planswalker Control - Alexander R.
2. RDW - Philip E.
3. DarkJeskai - Justus H.
4. Izzet Control - Thomas S.
5. Jeskai Control - Xiaoliang Y.
6. Ub Wizards - Achim G.
7. RDW - Daniel S.
8. Pattern Rector - Alexander B.

I will just post the decklist here for now. Will be online later on on MKM
#12
Hi,

I will give you some Information about our tournemant in Erfurt.

Standings after 5 rounds swiss

1   Alexander   -Izzet Control - 13
2   Luca   -Jund Midrange - 10
3   Christoph   -Abzan Midrange - 10
4   Gunnar   -Reanimator - 10
5   Paul   -Artifact Combo - 10
6   Jan D   -Bant Midrange - 9
7   Kai   -Sneaky Pattern - 9
8   Thomas   -RDW - 9
9   Justus Karl   -Jeskai Midrange - 9
10   Marcus   -Dimir Control - 8
11   Dion   -4c Blood - 7
12   Sebastian   -Hermit Combo - 6
13   Jan M   -Oath Control - 6
14   Max   -Grixis Control - 6
15   Maximilian   -Gruul Midrange - 6
16   Christoph   -4c (w/o B) Midrange - 5
17   Felix   -Esper Control - 4
18   Tobias   -Grixis Control - 3
19   Michael   -Abzan Entchentress - 3
#13
Hey guys,

I know it comes a bit late, but I will post it anyways. This weekend we have a special tournament in Erfurt.

ETERNAL MASTERS HIGHLANDER

https://www.facebook.com/events/195688177495207/?ti=icl

Date: 03.09.2016
Check IN: 9:30-10:00
Start: 10:00
Fee: 15 EURO
Place: Comic Attack Erfurt
Paulstraße 9
99084 Erfurt
Tel.: 0361/6570997

We will plays 5 Rounds with followed up top8

After the swiss rounds we open up a Eternal Masters Display and pick alle Rares and Rares in the standing order

and for the top8:

1. 4x Eternal Masters Booster
2. 3x Eternal Masters Booster
3. + 4. 2x Eternal Masters Booster
5.-8. 1x Eternal Masters Booster

you can also Preregister on the Comic Attack Homepage

http://www.datefix.de/kalender/4024/index.php?dfxpath=/js/kalender/4024/detail/758971
#14
ONE Weekend TWO Events

first Event:

28.05.2016

Sign in: 10.00
Price: 15,- Euro
5 rounds + Top 8
max. Players: 28

Decklist!!

https://www.facebook.com/events/1522375894734147/


Prices:
1. Dark Confidant dt. foil
2. Aether Vial foil (From the Vault) + Sneak Attack
3. From the World: Angels (OVP)
4. From the World: Angels (OVP)
5. - 8. 15,- Euro Ladengutschein

Second Event:

29.05.2016

Sign in: 9:30
Price: 15,- Euro
5 rounds + Top 4
max. Players: 28

Decklist!!

https://www.facebook.com/events/559177650923415/


Prices:

1. 10x Shockduals
2. Blood Moon + Sneak Attack
3. From the World: Angels (OVP)
4. From the World: Angels (OVP)
5. - 8. 15,- Euro Ladengutschein


Comic Attack
Paulstraße 9, 99084 Erfurt
#15
Reports / Highlander Tournaments in Erfurt
16-04-2010, 06:31:51 PM
This tread should show you some standings from our small highlander tournaments in Erfurt!

First tournament (we already played with new bannings:

11. april 2010

1. 5c Control
2. 5c Goodstuff
3. 4c Aggro
4. Bant
5. Boros
6. 4c creature-combo-control

15 april 2010

1. 5c control
2. 5c aggro control
3. 4c aggro
4. 4c creature-combo-control
5. WW
6. UG ramp
7. Big Rock
8. Zur-Control
9. Bant
10. UW Control


#16
Deck Lists / Boros deck wins
28-05-2009, 02:54:47 PM
Hi,

I was toying around with Zoo decks and all kind of aggro but I realy wanna find the most powerful aggro deck in my mind... now I was just wondering what is stronger Boros or Zoo and I just expect Boros to be more powerful against control becasue of geddons and nonbasic land hate... I found a list
from GP4

Länder
13 Plains
8 Mountain
1 Mishra's Factory
1 Battlefield Forge
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Flooded Strand
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Windswept Heath
1 Karakas
1 Plateau
1 Flagstones of Trokair
1 Wasteland
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Barbarian Ring

Kreaturen
1 Mogg Fanatic
1 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
1 Savannah Lions
1 Mother of Runes
1 Lantern Kami
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Dega Disciple
1 Suntail Hawk
1 Soltari Foot Soldier

1 Goblin Legionnaire
1 Soltari Trooper
1 Whipcorder
1 Leonin Skyhunter
1 Knight of the Holy Nimbus
1 Soltari Priest
1 Silver Knight
1 White Knight
1 Samurai of the Pale Curtain
1 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Serra Avenger
1 Hand of Honor
1 Kami of Ancient Law
1 Ronom Unicorn
1 Jötun Grunt
1 Mistral Charger

1 Exalted Angel
1 Paladin en-Vec
1 Stonecloaker
1 Magus of the Moon
1 Mystic Crusader

1 Giant Solifuge
1 Skizzik
1 Flametongue Kavu
1 Calciderm

1 Arc-Slogger

1 Spirit en-Dal
1 Knight of Meadowgrain
1 Brion Stoutarm

Sprüche
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Æther Vial
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Reckless Charge
1 Tithe
1 Bonesplitter
1 Chain Lightning
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Rift Bolt

1 Magma Jet
1 Lightning Helix
1 Sudden Shock
1 Volcanic Hammer
1 Price of Progress
1 Seal of Cleansing
1 Incinerate

1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Char
1 Flames of the Blood Hand
1 Urza's Rage
1 Griffin Guide
1 Glorious Anthem
1 Grafted Wargear
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Blood Moon
1 Molten Rain

1 Ravages of War
1 Armageddon

I am just wanna diskuss here how the best possible Boros deck would look like right now ?!

first of all in the list above she plays 7 creatures with cc4+ I am not sure if this is to much but especialy if I want to play the 3 planswalkers in this colors for aggro (2x Ajanie and Elspeth)
Would do you guys think is a good number for this cc4+ slots?


Spirit en-Dal - actualy looks pretty good and tricky but I am not sure because as a solo creature there are just some better ones avalible

Jötun Grunt - I don t know rly about him in a early aggro match do you think he is strong enought when he is on the starting hand

Mystic Crusader - he has protection but thats it .. against other colors he is maybe just to weak for 3 mana

Glorious Anthem - I never rly know whats better this card or a good eqipment ... maybe empirial plate was pretty awsome in some tests

Flames of the Blood Hand - I am not sure about this burn card actualy in my opinion Sulfuric Vortex does the job far better

molten Rain - is a pretty cool card but with all this global LD is it needed? mabe add cataclysm instead?

What do you think about the mana base? In my boros I want to play Countryside Crusher and I am not sure if he can hit the table turn 3 when i need to cast so much WW creatures 2nd turn and how stable I get the WW coast when i lay down blood moon or the magus


thx at all

Payron
#17
Deck Lists / Aggro-control build
25-12-2008, 06:53:52 PM
Hi,

The main reason to build up this deck was that I wanted to find a aggro deck thats Fun and competive for the GPs ...
I would like to have a aggro deck thats not pure damage and can handel some threads so kind of like aggro-control but more liek faster ...
I figured out thats the best thing to do get some card advantage and finde so my solutions ... so I did try to build something like Hajo from the last GP just with the adition of blue 4 some card advnatage
So in my testings with diferent deck it was like playing stuff liek doran is pretty cool ... If you have any ideas to improve my ideas then just tell me ...

so here we go:

// Lands
   1 Volcanic Island
   1 [TE] Wasteland
   1 [UL] Treetop Village
   1 [A] Tundra
   1 [R] Tropical Island
   1 [IA] Underground River
   1 [R] Taiga
   1 [R] Badlands
   1 [R] Plateau
   1 [R] Bayou
   1 [A] Savannah
   1 Scrubland
   1 [ON] Grand Coliseum
   1 [RAV] Overgrown Tomb
   1 [DIS] Blood Crypt
   1 [RAV] Temple Garden
   1 [SHM] Fire-Lit Thicket
   1 [SHM] Wooded Bastion
   1 [RAV] Sacred Foundry
   1 [ALA] Jungle Shrine
   1 [ALA] Savage Lands
   1 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
   1 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
   1 [FUT] Horizon Canopy
   1 [TSB] Gemstone Mine
   1 [ON] Polluted Delta
   1 [ON] Wooded Foothills
   1 [AQ] Mishra's Factory (4)
   1 [GP] Stomping Ground
   1 [ON] Flooded Strand
   1 [5E] City of Brass
   1 [ON] Windswept Heath
   1 [LG] Karakas
   1 [MOR] Murmuring Bosk

// Creatures
   1 [ALA] Woolly Thoctar
   1 [RAV] Dark Confidant
   1 [PLC] Stonecloaker
   1 [ON] Exalted Angel
   1 [PS] Flametongue Kavu
   1 [LRW] Doran, the Siege Tower
   1 [ALA] Stoic Angel
   1 [ALA] Jhessian Infiltrator
   1 [LRW] Garruk Wildspeaker
   1 [ALA] Ajani Vengeant
   1 [EX] Skyshroud Elite
   1 [9E] Kird Ape
   1 [UL] Mother of Runes
   1 [JU] Anurid Brushhopper
   1 [MOR] Taurean Mauler
   1 [RAV] Vinelasher Kudzu
   1 [CS] Jotun Grunt
   1 [GP] Giant Solifuge
   1 [TSB] Shadowmage Infiltrator
   1 [GP] Burning-Tree Shaman
   1 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
   1 [DIS] Trygon Predator
   1 [RAV] Birds of Paradise
   1 [AP] Lightning Angel
   1 [ALA] Rhox War Monk
   1 [RAV] Watchwolf
   1 [RAV] Loxodon Hierarch
   1 [EVE] Figure of Destiny
   1 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
   1 [10E] Joiner Adept
   1 [TSP] Saffi Eriksdotter
   1 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
   1 [ALA] Wild Nacatl
   1 [SHM] Boggart Ram-Gang
   1 [ALA] Tidehollow Sculler
   1 [ALA] Tidehollow Strix
   1 [SHM] Fulminator Mage

// Spells
   1 [PS] Dromar's Charm
   1 [IN] Tribal Flames
   1 [LRW] Thoughtseize
   1 [BD] Lightning Bolt
   1 [CST] Brainstorm
   1 [IN] Armadillo Cloak
   1 [ALA] Naya Charm
   1 [IA] Incinerate
   1 [OD] Call of the Herd
   1 [RAV] Putrefy
   1 [SH] Mox Diamond
   1 [UL] Rancor
   1 [ARE] Duress
   1 [ALA] Grixis Charm
   1 [DS] AEther Vial
   1 [OV] Swords to Plowshares
   1 [REW] Mortify
   1 [DIS] Rise/Fall
   1 [US] Hidden Herd
   1 Demonic Tutor
   1 [REW] Lightning Helix
   1 [MOR] Bitterblossom
   1 [R] Winter Orb
   1 [FD] Magma Jet
   1 [PS] Eladamri's Call
   1 [MR] Chrome Mox
   1 [AP] Vindicate
   1 [GP] Electrolyze
   1 [ALA] Bant Charm

thx 4 all help!