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ok its maybe not gg, but a powerful thread ;-)

I think Mangara of corondor is not that bad of a choice as many think here.
He has Karakas and if he draws both unanswered thats gg . Furthermore he can tutor karakas with wayfarer. I would not cut Mangara ;-)

Well actually I play them all^^
For me it´s not a choice between them and 3 lands are enough with one of both rangers to play groundswell turn 4,5,6,...
only thing is it does only work in your own turn

Groundswell becomes really nice if you have scryb ranger or qurion ranger, give it a thought

Good point, that means it´s problematic against agro but awesome against control.

I created a MG Agro myself and i can highly recommend Static Orb, since you´re playing garruk, nettle sentinel, mana elves and winter orb. If you decide to take it in I would also add quirion ranger - it´s a lot of fun together with one of the orbs and garruk. Tangle Wire works also well.

Oh and I have some battletrick-suggestions:
Groundswell
Symbiosis
Sword of Fire and Ice (ok not really a battle trick but it does the job anyway)

Another really funny card is Khalni Garden. There is nothing more hillarious than to beat the living crap out of your oponent with a 0/1 Plant and battle tricks

Whats the matter with x-roads and battletricks?

[Creatures:]

I did some playtesting and applied some changes. For those of you who are interested here´s the current deck list:


Creatures:

Mistmeadow Witch
Sakura-Tribe Elder
Wall of Blossoms
Wall of Roots
Gilded Drake
Waterfront Bouncer
Coiling Oracle
Qasali Pridemage

Trinket Mage
Man-o'-War
Stonecloaker
Azorius Herald
Aven Riftwatcher
Aven Mindcensor
Kitchen Finks
Eternal Witness
Yavimaya Elder
Rhox War Monk
Mirror Entity

Solemn Simulacrum
Tradewind Rider
Loxodon Hierarch
Glen Elendra Archmage
Venser, Shaper Savant
Sower of Temptation
Mystic Snake

Body Double (oh my god this card has so much synergy potential...)
Reveillark
Mulldrifter
Karmic Guide
Deranged Hermit
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir


Artifacts, enchantments, planeswalkers:

Engineered Explosives

Sensei's Divining Top
Pithing Needle
Phyrexian Furnace

Survival of the Fittest

Faith's Fetters
Opposition

Treachery
Future Sight (this card is ridiculous and insane - i call it insaneulous! Since I am running fetch lands the cards text has been changed to: Draw cards until your mana pool is emtpy)

Spells:

Path to Exile
Swords to Plowshares

Momentary Blink
Remand
Regrowth
Life from the Loam
Muddle the Mixture
Mana Leak
Counterspell


Dissipate
Harrow
Capsize
Forbid    (really nice with life from the loam)
Intuition

Rewind
Wrath of God
Gifts Ungiven
Fact or Fiction

Force of Will
Primal Command


Austere Command
Opportunity


Lands:

7 Island
5 Forest
3 Plains

Tropical Island
Savannah
Scrubland (the idea was to push engineered explosives)
Taiga (same)

Hallowed Fountain
Temple Garden
Breeding Pool

Seaside Citadel
Sunpetal Grove

Flooded Strand
Misty Rainforest
Scalding Tarn
Arid Mesa
Marsh Flats
Windswept Heath
Krosan Verge

Lonely Sandbar
Tranquil Thicket
Cephalid Coliseum
Academy Ruins
Wasteland
Maze of Ith

Actually I didnt have this much fun with a single deck like with this one. Thanks to all who helped

Hey,
i suggest cutting Giant Solifuge. It doesn´t really work well with battle tricks. Ok it has haste but you can play concordant crossroads or something like that to fill the gap when you don´t have the time to wait and want to attack imediatly.

ok now that´s an "I win button" indeed

[Artifacts, enchantments, planeswalkers:]

Ok i tinkered a little and these are the results:

Creatures:

Fyndhorn Elves
Birds of Paradise
Llanowar Elves

Mistmeadow Witch
Sakura-Tribe Elder
Wall of Blossoms
Wall of Roots
Gilded Drake
Waterfront Bouncer
Coiling Oracle
Saffi Eriksdotter
Qasali Pridemage

Trinket Mage
Man-o'-War
Stonecloaker
Azorius Herald
Aven Riftwatcher
Aven Mindcensor
Kitchen Finks
Eternal Witness
Yavimaya Elder
Yavimaya Dryad
Rhox War Monk
Mirror Entity

Solemn Simulacrum
Tradewind Rider
Loxodon Hierarch
Glen Elendra Archmage
Venser, Shaper Savant
Sower of Temptation
Mystic Snake
Body Double

Reveillark
Mulldrifter
Karmic Guide
Deranged Hermit
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir

Simic Sky Swallower


Artifacts, enchantments, planeswalkers:

Engineered Explosives

Sensei's Divining Top
Pithing Needle
Phyrexian Furnace

Survival of the Fittest

Crystal Shard
Jace Beleren

Faith's Fetters
Opposition

Spells:

Path to Exile
Condemn
Swords to Plowshares

Momentary Blink
Peel from Reality
Remand
Regrowth
Life from the Loam
Muddle the Mixture
Mana Leak
Counterspell
Force of Will
Dissipate

Harrow
Capsize
Forbid

Rewind
Wrath of God
Gifts Ungiven
Fact or Fiction

Bribery
Primal Command
Treachery
Rout
Tidings

Austere Command


Lands:

6 Island
6 Forest
4 Plains

Tropical Island
Savannah

Hallowed Fountain
Temple Garden
Breeding Pool

Flooded Strand
Misty Rainforest

Yavimaya Coast
Brushland
Adarkar Wastes

Azorius Chancery
Simic Growth Chamber

Seat of the Synod
Ancient Den
Tree of Tales

Lonely Sandbar
Tranquil Thicket
Secluded Steppe

Krosan Verge
Seaside Citadel
City of Brass
Gemstone Mine
Sunpetal Grove
Cephalid Coliseum
Wasteland
Riptide Laboratory

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@Dreamer: I am not sure if I understand the lark combo with Mirror Entity right. As far as I can see it means you have 3 nearly indistructible creatures or is there more to it ? ^^
Besides I thought about taking pithing needle out but with trinket mage it saved my ass too often to actually cut it.
Why do you think I should cut Treachery for Control Magic? I mean ok -  4 against 5 mana but isn´t the untap effect worth it ?

@malz77: Yeah I checked that. There are 8 wizards with mostly awesome effects, thank you for the advice !

First of all thank you for your proposals and giving the list a readable order. I´ll do this from the beginning the next time ;-)

I considered Intuition myself, actually you´re right - there is no reason not to play it.


I tried to put in more counterspells some time ago but I had problems with the manabase. Maybe i should reconsider this. Cryptic Command and Force of Will are great cards - no doubt but UUU or having a blue card in your hand is sometimes not as easy as it sounds when you play WGU (IMO). Mana Leak, Negate, Counterspell and Dissipate should do fine. I´d love to play Manadrain but it´s to expensive to buy.^^
What do you think of Rewind? And how many counterspells do you think would be matching this type of deck?

Body Double is a great tip. Thanks! This one will definetly go in.

Rout seems to be fair enough, I think I´ll put it in.

Hmm my head is nearly bursting when I think of what to cut to put all these cards in Any proposals what else to cut besides
SSS
Crystal Shard ?

[Creatures:]

Hey Guys,
i am new to this format and just builded a deck. If anyone has ideas or criticism feel free to post ;-)
I am aware of the fact that this deck would´ve rocked a lot more in the times when damage went to the stack but I just wanted to build something like this:

Creatures:

Fyndhorn Elves
Birds of Paradise
Llanowar Elves

Mistmeadow Witch
Sakura-Tribe Elder
Wall of Blossoms
Wall of Roots
Gilded Drake
Waterfront Bouncer
Coiling Oracle
Saffi Eriksdotter
Qasali Pridemage

Trinket Mage
Man-o'-War
Stonecloaker
Azorius Herald
Aven Riftwatcher
Aven Mindcensor
Kitchen Finks
Eternal Witness
Yavimaya Elder
Yavimaya Dryad
Rhox War Monk

Solemn Simulacrum
Tradewind Rider
Loxodon Hierarch
Glen Elendra Archmage
Venser, Shaper Savant
Sower of Temptation
Mystic Snake

Reveillark
Mulldrifter
Karmic Guide
Deranged Hermit
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir

Simic Sky Swallower


Artifacts, enchantments, planeswalkers:

Engineered Explosives

Sensei's Divining Top
Pithing Needle
Phyrexian Furnace

Survival of the Fittest

Crystal Shard
Jace Beleren

Faith's Fetters
Opposition

Spells:

Path to Exile
Condemn
Swords to Plowshares

Momentary Blink
Peel from Reality
Remand
Regrowth
Life from the Loam
Muddle the Mixture

Harrow
Capsize
Forbid

Wrath of God
Gifts Ungiven
Fact or Fiction

Bribery
Primal Command
Treachery

Austere Command


Lands:

4 Island
6 Forest
3 Plains

Tropical Island
Savannah

Hallowed Fountain
Temple Garden
Breeding Pool

Yavimaya Coast
Brushland
Adarkar Wastes

Azorius Chancery
Simic Growth Chamber

Seat of the Synod
Ancient Den
Tree of Tales

Lonely Sandbar
Tranquil Thicket
Secluded Steppe

Krosan Verge
Seaside Citadel
City of Brass
Gemstone Mine
Sunpetal Grove
Cephalid Coliseum
Wasteland