B/W/G(+U)

neroh · 16-11-2008, 06:31:32 PM

Hey! This friday will be highlander tournament at my local shop so I decided to build my first highlander deck (would really appriciate if you help me what lands I should pick).

Banned cards are:
-all cards that are banned here (http://www.highlandermagic.info/index.php?id=bannedlist)
-all cards banned in legacy format (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Resources.aspx?x=judge/resources/sfrlegacy)

I actually got idea's for cards from other players that I played with, so I expect that other people on tournament will play: Monoblack, 2 G/B/W (almost similar to this list), U (wizards), U/R/B (burn)

Also I think it would be cool to put in some blue cards for more control (maybe cut one color enterely out if needed)

These is very rough list of cards I want include:

// Creatures
1 [UD] Academy Rector
1 [TSB] Mystic Enforcer
1 [AP] Spiritmonger
1 [EX] Spike Weaver
1 [EVE] Wickerbough Elder
1 [UD] Yavimaya Elder
1 [UL] Karmic Guide
1 [GP] Angel of Despair
1 [AP] Spectral Lynx
1 [MR] Solemn Simulacrum
1 [LE] Windborn Muse
1 [CHK] Kami of Ancient Law
1 [RAV] Birds of Paradise
1 [LRW] Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
1 [TSP] Saffi Eriksdotter
1 [ON] Exalted Angel
1 [FUT] Aven Mindcensor
1 [TSB] Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 [10E] Viridian Shaman
1 [SH] Wall of Blossoms
1 [9E] Silklash Spider
1 [FD] Eternal Witness
1 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 [9E] Blinding Angel
1 [ALA] Fleshbag Marauder
1 [10E] Reya Dawnbringer
1 [UL] Mother of Runes
1 [IN] Utopia Tree
1 [RAV] Loxodon Hierarch
1 [CHK] Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 [LRW] Garruk Wildspeaker

// Spells
1 [VI] Necromancy
1 [WL] Aura of Silence
1 [LRW] Austere Command
1 [EX] Survival of the Fittest
1 [RAV] Life from the Loam
1 [GP] Debtors' Knell
1 [LRW] Profane Command
1 [NE] Seal of Cleansing
1 [EX] Cataclysm
1 [AP] Pernicious Deed
1 [PLC] Damnation
1 [4E] Swords to Plowshares
1 [EVE] Unmake
1 [AP] Vindicate
1 [RAV] Putrefy
1 [TSB] Disenchant
1 [10E] Beacon of Unrest
2 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
1 [ALA] Naturalize
1 [PS] Eladamri's Call
1 [TSP] Sudden Spoiling
1 [TSP] Krosan Grip
1 [5E] Animate Dead
1 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
1 [FD] Vedalken Shackles
1 [4E] Nevinyrral's Disk
1 [CHK] Journeyer's Kite
1 Regrowth
1 [ALA] Oblivion Ring
1 [ALA] Invincible Hymn
1 [PLC] Harmonize
1 [JU] Mirari's Wake
1 [LG] Sylvan Library
1 [OD] Call of the Herd
1 [LG] Reincarnation
1 [10E] Wrath of God
1 [UD] Pattern of Rebirth
1 [RAV] Selesnya Signet
1 [UL] Defense of the Heart
1 [GP] Mortify
1 [GP] Orzhov Signet
1 [4E] Ashes to Ashes
1 [5E] Nature's Lore
1 [6E] Vampiric Tutor
1 [10E] Diabolic Tutor
1 [IN] Sterling Grove
1 [RAV] Golgari Signet
1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
1 [MR] Tooth and Nail
1 [UL] Crop Rotation
1 [ON] Akroma's Vengeance
1 [ARE] Enlightened Tutor

Thanks for help!

Mythrandir · 16-11-2008, 08:03:26 PM

well, first things first. u use some of the banned cards in those lists

Jitte and vampiric tutor are banned.

As for lands you wanna include:

Duals of the respective colors
all 5 fetchlands
A mix of shocklands and those hybrid ones (of the respective color)
Wasteland
treetop village
nantuko monastery
cycle lands (for the LFTL)
maze of ith
volrath stronghold (another must)
mishras factory
mutavault
karakas
urborg
krosan verge
veusva
flagstones of trokair
+a good number of basic lands

IÂ´m not saying u should put all of these in.. just some ideas

Creatures:
+ squee, goblin (awesome with survival)
+ etched oracle
+ tarmogoyf
+ doran siege tower
+ eternal dragon (i like it, because it runs well with necromancy)
+crypt champio (works great with saffi)
+ reveilark+ baloth? (good with garruk)

-angel of despair
- blinding angel
- windborn muse
- spectral linx
- fleshbag marauder
- reya

you run a lot of expensive CMC cards. your meta is probably slower, iÂ´d advise to cut these out, but your call

spells
+ mystical teachings
+demonic tutor
+ gifts ungive
+ intuition

these two are the best tutors around and sice you play U u shoud use them.

- invincinble hymn... too slow once again
- ashes to ashes

Overall it seems quite good

neroh · 16-11-2008, 10:03:03 PM

heya, thanks for replying so fast

I just found out that the real ban list isnt that I posted before, it's this one:

^{Ancestral Recall
Balance
Black Lotus
Chaos Orb
Dust Bowl
Falling Star
Fastbond
Flash
Imperial Seal
Library of Alexandria
Lion's Eye Diamond
Mana Crypt
Mana Vault
Memory Jar
Mind Over Matter
Mind Twist
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Mystical Tutor
Power Artifact
Protean Hulk
Skullclamp
Sol Ring
Strip Mine
Tolarian Academy
Time Walk
Timetwister
Tinker
Trinisphere
Umezawa's Jitte
Vampiric Tutor
Wheel of Fortune
Worldgorger Dragon
Yawgmoth's Will

Vse ante-karte:
Amulet of Quoz
Bronze Tablet
Contract from Below
Darkpact
Demonic Attorney
Jeweled Bird
Rebirth
Tempest Efreet
Timmerian Fiends}

so after looking at that list I found out that Survival of the Fittest, Hermit Druid and some other cards aren't banned. That means I'm gonna transform deck to make it fit that combo better. I played with one once but didn't get whole thing together. Anyone has some list including that?

parents are angry,so gotta be quick here. otherwise i'd post some cards

neroh · 17-11-2008, 09:44:22 AM

There, I got the cards together.

// Lands
1 [ON] Polluted Delta
1 [TSP] Vesuva
1 Badlands
1 [SH] Volrath's Stronghold
1 [JU] Nantuko Monastery
1 [AQ] Mishra's Factory (1)
1 [ON] Lonely Sandbar
1 [A] Underground Sea
1 [A] Savannah
1 [A] Plateau
1 [NE] Kor Haven
1 [ON] Windswept Heath
1 [ST] Island (2)
1 [4E] Plains (1)
1 [TSP] Forest (1)
1 [TE] Mountain (1)
1 [P3] Swamp (2)
1 [8E] City of Brass
1 [ON] Flooded Strand
1 [A] Taiga
1 [ON] Tranquil Thicket
1 Volcanic Island
1 [OD] Cephalid Coliseum
1 [ON] Forgotten Cave
1 Tropical Island
1 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
1 Bayou
1 Scrubland
1 [DK] Maze of Ith
1 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
1 [ON] Secluded Steppe
1 [ON] Wooded Foothills
1 [A] Tundra
1 [GP] Orzhov Basilica
1 [RAV] Dimir Aqueduct
1 [RAV] Golgari Rot Farm

// Creatures
1 [TSB] Mystic Enforcer
1 [FD] Etched Oracle
1 [PS] Flametongue Kavu
1 [ON] Ravenous Baloth
1 [LRW] Garruk Wildspeaker
1 [PLC] Big Game Hunter
1 [SC] Twisted Abomination
1 [AP] Mystic Snake
1 [UL] Karmic Guide
1 [CHK] Yosei, the Morning Star
1 [CHK] Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 [JU] Wonder
1 [SH] Volrath's Shapeshifter
1 [JU] Genesis
1 [CHK] Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 [FD] Eternal Witness
1 [CHK] Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 [LE] Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 [JU] Anger
1 [SH] Hermit Druid
1 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
1 [LRW] Shriekmaw
1 [DIS] Loaming Shaman
1 [TSP] Harmonic Sliver
1 [OD] Psychatog
1 [SC] Eternal Dragon
1 [ON] Krosan Tusker
1 [10E] Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 [JU] Phantom Centaur
1 [UD] Yavimaya Elder
1 [RAV] Loxodon Hierarch
1 [TSB] Wall of Roots
1 [MOR] Reveillark
1 [PLC] Body Double
1 [EVE] Wickerbough Elder
1 [TSP] Bogardan Hellkite
1 [JU] Brawn
1 [OD] Nimble Mongoose

// Spells
1 [TO] Deep Analysis
1 [UL] Crop Rotation
1 [RAV] Life from the Loam
1 [MI] Enlightened Tutor
1 [TSP] Dread Return
1 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
1 [10E] Beacon of Unrest
1 [8E] Diabolic Tutor
1 [PS] Eladamri's Call
1 [UD] Pattern of Rebirth
1 [TE] Intuition
1 [VI] Necromancy
1 [JU] Stitch Together
1 [EX] Survival of the Fittest
1 Regrowth
1 [CHK] Gifts Ungiven
1 [LRW] Makeshift Mannequin
1 [TSP] Krosan Grip
1 [AP] Pernicious Deed
1 [5E] Animate Dead
1 [EX] Recurring Nightmare
1 [OD] Buried Alive
1 [TE] Living Death
1 [IN] Fact or Fiction
1 [LRW] Profane Command
1 [PLC] Damnation
1 [10E] Wrath of God
1 [GP] Mortify
1 [OD] Beast Attack

if someone knows some cool combo with some cards pls tell

Mythrandir · 17-11-2008, 11:58:07 PM

i see that you added the fifht color, red. dont know if its worth though. u can still use squee in that deck without having R.
this a ia bit different than your previous version.

Overall it looks good, but you still play a lot of high CMC cards. i also dont see any grave hate besides loaming shaman, isnt grave hate important in your meta? try addin phyrexian furnace or shred memory. these provide grave hate and if you dont wanna use as grave hate you still have the cantrip/transmute.

iÂ´d probably cut R and:
- anger
- FTK
- kikki
- brawn
- bogardan hellkite
- beast attack

would probably try lillian vess? i think it fits the concept of the deck

well, like i said, a bit different from the 1st version. this is more reanimator oriented.

neroh · 18-11-2008, 09:50:16 AM

Ok I'm not sure about red either but I still love anger $:-\$ it fits so well in this deck around graveyard. How many basic lands would you put in because Hermit Druid, Sakura-Tribe Elder and Yavimaya Elder works on them. I was thinking about 8.

so_not · 18-11-2008, 12:43:49 PM

Well at the moment it seems your reveillark-combo doesn't work because you don't have anything to sacrifice lark, body double and friends. You need Greater Gargadon, Mirror entity, Carrion Feeder, Blasting Station, Nantuko Husk or Phyrexian Ghoul. You could also use Pestermite to combo
with your kiki-jiki.

You are probably aware that, because you play 5 colors, your deck loses to nonbasiclandhate (back to basics, Blood moon. Magus of the moon, Ruination). That is one reason why you should have duress and thoughtseize and stuff in your deck.

Mythrandir · 18-11-2008, 01:48:47 PM

Quote from: so_not on 18-11-2008, 12:43:49 PM
You are probably aware that, because you play 5 colors, your deck loses to nonbasiclandhate (back to basics, Blood moon. Magus of the moon, Ruination). That is one reason why you should have duress and thoughtseize and stuff in your deck.

well, unfortunately, iÂ´m quite aware of that.

. As for duress + thoughtseize i dont think they matter for those cards, iÂ´d run more "disenchant like spells" over those or even mana artifacts. And you forgot price of progress