YYW (Ying Yang Weeny)

[Georg B]

Since my Zoo.deck was not solid enough and there is an even better list in the last T8 of the GP (I think I'm going to test it some time) I thought of an other aggro deck I could test.

White Weeny seemed to be a good choice since it won the GP and I played WW some time ago (one Year or so).
But I do not wanted to play a pure white aggro deck, because there is so mutch power in the other 4 colors that there has to be a splash (two splashes are too mutch, cause I want to play the good white creatures for 2 white mana).

I chose black as the splash, because I never saw a WW with a B-Splash and because there are so many good cards for a splash.

Here is my list, and it has been prooven as quite solid:

// Lands
    1 [TE] Wasteland
    12 [IN] Plains (4)
    5 [IN] Swamp (3)
    1 [EVE] Fetid Heath
    1 [AP] Caves of Koilos
    1 [SH] Volrath's Stronghold
    1 [TSP] Flagstones of Trokair
    1 [LG] Karakas
    1 [R] Scrubland
    1 [DS] Blinkmoth Nexus
    1 [AQ] Mishra's Factory (3)
    1 [MOR] Mutavault
    1 [GP] Godless Shrine
    1 [ON] Windswept Heath
    1 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
    1 [ON] Polluted Delta
    1 [ON] Flooded Strand

// Creatures
    1 [ALA] Ranger of Eos
    1 [SC] Silver Knight
    1 [ON] Whipcorder
    1 [ALA] Ethersworn Canonist
    1 [DIS] Mistral Charger
    1 [EVE] Stillmoon Cavalier
    1 [9E] Paladin en-Vec
    1 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
    1 [LRW] Knight of Meadowgrain
    1 [PLC] Calciderm
    1 [LRW] Ajani Goldmane
    1 [CHK] Nezumi Graverobber--Nighteyes the Desecrator
    1 [FD] Blind Creeper
    1 [CS] Ronom Unicorn
    1 [FUT] Aven Mindcensor
    1 [AP] Spectral Lynx
    1 [ALA] Tidehollow Sculler
    1 [RAV] Dark Confidant
    1 [TE] Soltari Trooper
    1 [CHK] Isamaru, Hound of Konda
    1 [R] Savannah Lions
    1 [ON] Exalted Angel
    1 [SH] Soltari Champion
    1 [TE] Soltari Foot Soldier
    1 [TE] Soltari Monk
    1 [TSB] Soltari Priest
    1 [9E] Leonin Skyhunter
    1 [EVE] Figure of Destiny
    1 [LRW] Burrenton Forge-Tender
    1 [UL] Mother of Runes
    1 [TSP] Knight of the Holy Nimbus
    1 [ALA] Knight of the White Orchid
    1 [CHK] Samurai of the Pale Curtain
    1 [FD] Auriok Champion
    1 [TSP] Serra Avenger
    1 [LRW] Shriekmaw

// Spells
    1 [NE] Tangle Wire
    1 [ON] Smother
    1 [TO] Chainer's Edict
    1 [US] Duress
    1 [LRW] Thoughtseize
    1 [UL] Unearth
    1 [SH] Mox Diamond
    1 [MR] Chrome Mox
    1 [TE] Diabolic Edict
    1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
    1 [GP] Mortify
    1 [AT] Disenchant
    1 [VI] Tithe
    1 [LG] Land Tax
    1 [MR] Empyrial Plate
    1 [FD] Steelshaper's Gift
    1 [EVE] Beckon Apparation
    1 [MOR] Bitterblossom
    1 [R] Armageddon
    1 [AP] Vindicate
    1 [MI] Enlightened Tutor
    1 [R] Swords to Plowshares
    1 [5E] Winter Orb
    1 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
    1 [EVE] Unmake
    1 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant
    1 [FD] Grafted Wargear
    1 [P3] Ravages of War
    1 [DS] AEther Vial
    1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 [MR] Bonesplitter
    1 [R] Black Vise

I cutted Hymn to Tourach and Sinkhole, because I recognized that It is better for the Deck to ignore all cards with double black mana in its cost and especially with just two black mana in its cost.

Maybe you have some Ideas.

PS: I am so angry that I traded my Ravages of War some time ago. The prize has risen so mutch.

[Mythrandir]

first nice name. hehe

well, i´m not an expert on WW, but here goes:

lands:
Nothing here...

Creatures:

would try/test
dauthi horror, nice turn 2 drop, kind of nice against other WW.
necrotic sliver.
phyrexian negator


Spells:
am i seeing wrong or you dont play demonic tutor?
Skeletal scrying, you dont use your grave that much.


Didnt help that much, your list seems nice, dark confidant is really nice addition to WW, however cards like duress dn thoughtseize may make you lose tempo, but once again no expert on WW here

the only WB i´ve seen were more control oriented, using black to have more draw (arena, etc)and adding more removal (spot/mass)

[Vazdru]

My thoughts:

+ Dark Ritual - Plains
+ Jötun Grunt - Spectral Lynx
+ Castigate - Empyrial Plate
+ Gerrard's Verdict - Sword of Light and Shadow
+ Cursed Scroll - Auriok Champion

[Georg B]

Dauthi Horror could be a nice addition, right, but I thing the Sliver is a bit expensive and I do not like the Negator. With all the upcoming Aggrodecks and their blockers... no.

Demonic: hmm right, I think I should add it. It can find the silver bullets.
Scrying is too slow I think.

I deffinatly do not want to cut any Lands The landcount seems fine to me and especially with Mox Diamond.
Dark Ritual should not be that good in this deck since I play only 15 black cards (or so) and all of them cost only one black mana. Ritual is brilliant in a sui deck with Specter and stuff like that, but not in this deck.

Jötun Grunt: Hmm, Every time I tested it, it was too weak. But maybe I'll try him.
The Lynx was a plan agains RG and sutch decks (maybe elves). But I have not tested against sutch decks yet.

Castigate: The only discard spells I want to play should cost 1 mana or do something else because I have that mutch 2-drops that I dont want to miss one.
Same with the Verdict. The lifegain is not that important for me.
The croll is a good idea and I thought about it already. I think I'm going to test it.

Thanks for your help!

[Georg B]

Ok, I added Demonic Tutor, Cursed Scroll and Dauthi Horror.
I cutted Soltari Champion, Empyrial Plate (although it is so nice with Land Tax ) and Blind Creeper.

I also cutted one Plains to play one more Swamp.

If you like to play against this deck, feel free to contact me.

[Mythrandir]

well, i just played against his deck and i went 1-4 (if i´m not wrong) pretty though MU, he always nailed me with winter orb, tangle wire, ravages which are killers against my 5cc, i think black is a nice addition, bitterblossom alone makes  Black very good choice. also having 6 creatures in play that cant be target with a shriekmaw is bad for me

nice games.

btw, i aggree with vazdru.. cut auriok champion.. it seems a little sub-optimal.

[Georg B]

My records by now are:
5c Control: 6:1, GBR Survival Token2:3 (the list of Vadzdru), MUC 7:1 (some random decks from a MWS server)

I want to play against aggro. So if you want to play, contact me! (control is also ok)

[Georg B]

Since I wanted to play this deck in Mannheim at the 3., I asked Christoph Gerber (Highlander Grand Prix 6 Coverage and also known as Kavu24 in this and other forums) if he could borrow me some cards (well, actually he has to borrow me nearly the hole deck but he gets a jap. foil Scab-Clan Mauler from me).
He liked the idea behind the deck and built the version for MWS too, but he made some changes.
I have not yet tested his version, but I will.
Here is his list:

// Lands
    1 [TE] Wasteland
    13 [IN] Plains (4)
    4 [IN] Swamp (3)
    1 [EVE] Fetid Heath
    1 [AP] Caves of Koilos
    1 [SH] Volrath's Stronghold
    1 [TSP] Flagstones of Trokair
    1 [LG] Karakas
    1 [R] Scrubland
    1 [AQ] Mishra's Factory (3)
    1 [GP] Godless Shrine
    1 [ON] Windswept Heath
    1 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
    1 [ON] Polluted Delta
    1 [ON] Flooded Strand
    1 [LRW] Windbrisk Heights

// Creatures
    1 [ALA] Ranger of Eos
    1 [SC] Silver Knight
    1 [ON] Whipcorder
    1 [DIS] Mistral Charger
    1 [EVE] Stillmoon Cavalier
    1 [9E] Paladin en-Vec
    1 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
    1 [LRW] Knight of Meadowgrain
    1 [PLC] Calciderm
    1 [LRW] Ajani Goldmane
    1 [CS] Ronom Unicorn
    1 [FUT] Aven Mindcensor
    1 [AP] Spectral Lynx
    1 [ALA] Tidehollow Sculler
    1 [RAV] Dark Confidant
    1 [TE] Soltari Trooper
    1 [CHK] Isamaru, Hound of Konda
    1 [R] Savannah Lions
    1 [ON] Exalted Angel
    1 [SH] Soltari Champion
    1 [TE] Soltari Foot Soldier
    1 [TSB] Soltari Priest
    1 [9E] Leonin Skyhunter
    1 [EVE] Figure of Destiny
    1 [LRW] Burrenton Forge-Tender
    1 [UL] Mother of Runes
    1 [TSP] Knight of the Holy Nimbus
    1 [ALA] Knight of the White Orchid
    1 [CHK] Samurai of the Pale Curtain
    1 [TSP] Serra Avenger
    1 [LRW] Shriekmaw
    1 [SHM] Wilt-Leaf Liege
    1 [TE] Dauthi Horror
    1 [CS] Jotun Grunt
    1 [CHK] Lantern Kami
    1 [JU] Suntail Hawk
    1 [ALA] Akrasan Squire
    1 [ALA] Sigiled Paladin
    1 [EVE] Flickerwisp

// Spells
    1 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant
    1 [NE] Tangle Wire
    1 [ON] Smother
    1 [TO] Chainer's Edict
    1 [US] Duress
    1 [LRW] Thoughtseize
    1 [TE] Diabolic Edict
    1 [GP] Mortify
    1 [AT] Disenchant
    1 [VI] Tithe
    1 [MOR] Bitterblossom
    1 [R] Armageddon
    1 [AP] Vindicate
    1 [MI] Enlightened Tutor
    1 [R] Swords to Plowshares
    1 [5E] Winter Orb
    1 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
    1 [EVE] Unmake
    1 [FD] Grafted Wargear
    1 [P3] Ravages of War
    1 [DS] AEther Vial
    1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 [R] Black Vise
    1 [AP] Gerrard's Verdict
    1 [BOK] Shining Shoal
    1 [BOK] Shuko
    1 [MR] Bonesplitter
    1 [EVE] Beckon Apparation
    1 [SHM] Spectral Procession
    1 [MR] Mask of Memory
    1 [MR] Lightning Greaves


The red cardnames are cards that were not in my list.
What do you say?

[Mythrandir]

just finished playing with you this time the results were more balanced.

Here are some thoughts:

elspeth -> yes
ajani -> no, i dont think he is that good =/

stonecloaker instead of flickewisp

lightning greaves -> a big yes. shroud is a big deal
as for shining shoal i really dont know, seems sub-optimal